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<blockquote data-quote="DrunkonDuty" data-source="post: 5362939" data-attributes="member: 54364">As I see it there is no &quot;should have power over extraplanar servants of good.&quot; But there is a might.&nbsp;For me it would depend on the situation. A cleric trying to abjure an angel of their god would be an unusual situation. But if it came up the cleric would be unable to use their patron's power against an agent of that power. If it was a fallen angel then the cleric would be able to use his/her god-given power against it. And then there's plenty of grey areas in between (like an Old Testament Angel and a New Testament cleric at loggerheads about HOW to serve the god.) At the end of the day I'd make a call based on how I see the situation.&nbsp; Hence my sig. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;A cleric trying to abjure a servant of a rival, yet similarly aligned, deity would be able to use their power.&nbsp;An arcane caster can abjure anyone they want to.&nbsp;Re. the OT/NT dichotomy. That's pretty much what I meant when I said &quot;god's portfolio/personality&quot; in my eg3.&nbsp;cheers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DrunkonDuty, post: 5362939, member: 54364"] As I see it there is no "[I]should[/I] have power over extraplanar servants of good." But there is a [I]might[/I]. For me it would depend on the situation. A cleric trying to abjure an angel of their god would be an unusual situation. But if it came up the cleric would be unable to use their patron's power against an agent of that power. If it was a [I]fallen[/I] angel then the cleric would be able to use his/her god-given power against it. And then there's plenty of grey areas in between (like an Old Testament Angel and a New Testament cleric at loggerheads about HOW to serve the god.) At the end of the day I'd make a call based on how I see the situation. Hence my sig. :) A cleric trying to abjure a servant of a rival, yet similarly aligned, deity would be able to use their power. An arcane caster can abjure anyone they want to. Re. the OT/NT dichotomy. That's pretty much what I meant when I said "god's portfolio/personality" in my eg3. cheers. [/QUOTE]

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