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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5364516" data-attributes="member: 4937">Huh? Might I ask, what evil has said person done if they don't harm or threaten the innocent?&nbsp;&nbsp; I mean, as far as redeeming features go, that's a pretty redeeming feature.&nbsp; What evil is left after we substract out, &quot;Does no harm&quot;?&nbsp; If you have no blood of the innocents on your hand, not even metaphorically because apparantly not only does he refrain from harm but bridles his tongue and temper, then yeah, I would say you are pretty well redeemed.&nbsp; I'm reminded in such a statement of for example, the nun of Les Miserables who has never ever sullied her tongue with a lie, until she does so to protect the innocent from harm.&nbsp; If you do no harm save to those that deserve it, exactly where on the evil scale do you manage to get in your estimation?&nbsp;&nbsp; What evil does he joyfully do if it doesn't involve doing, you know, actual harm?Conversely, why do you imagine that 'regretting you've done harm' weighs such on the scales of good that it balances against mass murder and produces the verdict of 'neutral'?&nbsp; I mean, since when does, &quot;I meant well&quot;, excuse everything?&nbsp; Where I said LG deity, I might be inclined to ask just what this LN crusader was actually crusading against, since it doesn't appear to be evil.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5364516, member: 4937"] Huh? Might I ask, what evil has said person done if they don't harm or threaten the innocent? I mean, as far as redeeming features go, that's a pretty redeeming feature. What evil is left after we substract out, "Does no harm"? If you have no blood of the innocents on your hand, not even metaphorically because apparantly not only does he refrain from harm but bridles his tongue and temper, then yeah, I would say you are pretty well redeemed. I'm reminded in such a statement of for example, the nun of Les Miserables who has never ever sullied her tongue with a lie, until she does so to protect the innocent from harm. If you do no harm save to those that deserve it, exactly where on the evil scale do you manage to get in your estimation? What evil does he joyfully do if it doesn't involve doing, you know, actual harm? Conversely, why do you imagine that 'regretting you've done harm' weighs such on the scales of good that it balances against mass murder and produces the verdict of 'neutral'? I mean, since when does, "I meant well", excuse everything? Where I said LG deity, I might be inclined to ask just what this LN crusader was actually crusading against, since it doesn't appear to be evil. [/QUOTE]

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