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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5662308" data-attributes="member: 67338">a few months ago that is were I started...how things changed (like ultimate marvel) would make teh diffrence. Yes seeing him comeing both in and out of game changed alot... Thank you, being such big parts of the early game it took the most thought to get right... can you gve me an example of this...not that I dont belive yu, but to point out to others please. Yes, this is WAY diffrent...and my first big clue in to makeing this post. It seams (IMO) that too much is out front in this edition for it to work as well as before, and that PCs (In my experance) have been condtioned to except his less and less.I did that, and added some 'natives' to the new land. I have bronzemen and kenku and amazons...it gave some more rp options (Hindsight being 20/20 gave me this)let me rephrase...it is harder and not the same result. But you are correct it can be done with work (I may steal this idead from yout)Again it can be doen diffrently, but really it is soo diffrent at that point as to take away. My NPC bard should have majastic word, not magic missle... it just is not the same (Not better bot worse diffrent)  and you may need to retrin powers too, and some feats have prereqs, and well it can be done it is not as simple.again good or bad not withstanding it is diffrent. I normaly allow anything.Imagin how diffrent a Wilden Invoker, a warforged artafice, Minitaour battlemind, reverant vampire, and a half orc slayer is then a Dwarf fighter, a human cleric, an elvin ranger, half elf wizard, and hafling rouge is for a party.yes but some fighter dailys are too, and wizards are not sitting out 3 fights to save there spells for the 4th...agian pro and con there, but still diffrent feel.Just think about how if you re ran an old game how much better you could do (hind sight 20/20 plus extra exp) Even if you do not run it...just think about it. It makes a fun thought... and the more you make little changes the more fun it becomes.</blockquote>

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