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What did we loose updateing a game from 2e to 4e
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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5662862" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>Um, I am not sure where you are going with this...so let me say again. PHB1-3 are all core.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> WHy are we compairing a PHB2 race to a world book? Becuse again I allowed lots of things...but people never said "of cource I can play a half dragon" but in 4e...dragon born.</p><p></p><p></p><p> what ever you know what I ment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> and when a PC asked for a buff, or a heal? now compair that to taking the same spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The adventure went just fine the first time, and everyone loved it...so much that one of those players wanted me to rerun it now in 4e to finish it. The swords were needed to hurt the corruption spirit becuse the swords were +3/+5 vs X (each one +5 to a diffrent creature) and they had a cool spell like ability and a breath weapon like attack (once per month). If the PCs had found other +3 weapons (witch I just did not include in the world) they would have worked. </p><p></p><p></p><p> Ok half orc is in PHB2, shardmind are in PHB3, Dragonborn and teiflinf are in PHB1 all core.</p><p></p><p></p><p> fine it is a problem...but it is something that changed. </p><p></p><p>in 2e if I brought 4 swordsman and an archer to fight the party eveyone expects that...if I brought a cleric, 2 wizards, and a 2 swordsman I bet 9 out of 10 PCs would be WAY more worried about wizards.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Yes but now so can fightter or Rouge...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>ok, so what way are you thinking? I know we once killed a vampire with a war horse (if you want to know just ask)</p><p></p><p></p><p> What adventure? the adventure is/was find the swords...if you choose not to find the swords you must want the adventure to end. the story of the angle is still going...but with you having no way to stop him.</p><p></p><p></p><p> I think the dresden books by jim butcher are some of the best writen wizard stories ever.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I could do a whole blog on this. In 2e I can name every item I or someone playing as I DMed made...I just counted 28...</p><p></p><p>In 3e I can;t even count how many Pcs made items...</p><p></p><p>In 4e I have not played a game that someone did not make items...</p><p></p><p>So again it is very diffrent.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like both, BUT stories and encounters run very diffrent in both.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 5662862, member: 67338"] Um, I am not sure where you are going with this...so let me say again. PHB1-3 are all core. WHy are we compairing a PHB2 race to a world book? Becuse again I allowed lots of things...but people never said "of cource I can play a half dragon" but in 4e...dragon born. what ever you know what I ment. and when a PC asked for a buff, or a heal? now compair that to taking the same spells. The adventure went just fine the first time, and everyone loved it...so much that one of those players wanted me to rerun it now in 4e to finish it. The swords were needed to hurt the corruption spirit becuse the swords were +3/+5 vs X (each one +5 to a diffrent creature) and they had a cool spell like ability and a breath weapon like attack (once per month). If the PCs had found other +3 weapons (witch I just did not include in the world) they would have worked. Ok half orc is in PHB2, shardmind are in PHB3, Dragonborn and teiflinf are in PHB1 all core. fine it is a problem...but it is something that changed. in 2e if I brought 4 swordsman and an archer to fight the party eveyone expects that...if I brought a cleric, 2 wizards, and a 2 swordsman I bet 9 out of 10 PCs would be WAY more worried about wizards. Yes but now so can fightter or Rouge... ok, so what way are you thinking? I know we once killed a vampire with a war horse (if you want to know just ask) What adventure? the adventure is/was find the swords...if you choose not to find the swords you must want the adventure to end. the story of the angle is still going...but with you having no way to stop him. I think the dresden books by jim butcher are some of the best writen wizard stories ever. I could do a whole blog on this. In 2e I can name every item I or someone playing as I DMed made...I just counted 28... In 3e I can;t even count how many Pcs made items... In 4e I have not played a game that someone did not make items... So again it is very diffrent. I like both, BUT stories and encounters run very diffrent in both. [/QUOTE]
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