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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 4687667" data-attributes="member: 14506">3e was sold on options4e was sold on not being 3eI bought into the whole marketing of the game and eagerly awaited the new things that were driveling out from WotC. However when I had the book in my hand, I was shocked and stunned and could not place what I didnt really like but I knew there was something. 3e was not doing it for us both because of its problems and WotC sold most of us on the concept of a shiny new game and how bad the 3e was. Eventually, our group moved to other systems because we were not happy and I think that the impotence for change had been driven so hard into us that we changed. We discovered Savage Worlds which is still my favorite game. I mean wow, what a game. Then I moved. Moving to a new city and being a gamer, you can guess it... you get into D&D and 4e at that. After revisiting 4e I have sense come around. I believe the core mechanics of the game are sound if not superior to 3e, however, there are sub-systems that need fixing. I would love a 3pp to do it if WotC won't. In general, things that could use a can opener: remove 99% of feat requirements (including tier), remove class defined roles, eliminate at-will and daily powers and fix a core mechanical problem (imo) stat polarity. Throw these into an "Advanced D&D" supplement and you make me happy. Options not restrictions, it needs to be the mantra.</blockquote>