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<blockquote data-quote="DaveMage" data-source="post: 4550072" data-attributes="member: 10447">I don't think you're missing anything.&nbsp; People are basing their judgements based on how much they like or don't like 3.5 as far as I can tell.&nbsp; (For those that don't like 3.5, most people are saying it doesn't go far enough, and for those that really like 3.5, they are saying it goes too far.&nbsp; Sounds like they are doing about as expected, eh?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; )Not that I have seen.&nbsp; I think most things are still in flux, so the beta is the last document that sums up most of the proposed changes. Good quesitons!&nbsp; Need a Paizo rep to answer these.I'm not participating in the beta testing, since after reading through the beta, I didn't see much of anything that caused me to be concerned.&nbsp; Looked like mostly interesting ideas to me that will easily dovetail with 3.5.&nbsp; If some things don't make it in the final version, that's OK, and if all of them make it, I'll probably play it or steal what I want for my 3.5 game.The only thing I saw in the beta that I hated was the change to the wish spell that required you have to reduce an ability score to raise another one (this seemed really, really lame to me).&nbsp; Of course, probably 95% of gamers will never use that spell anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DaveMage, post: 4550072, member: 10447"] I don't think you're missing anything. People are basing their judgements based on how much they like or don't like 3.5 as far as I can tell. (For those that don't like 3.5, most people are saying it doesn't go far enough, and for those that really like 3.5, they are saying it goes too far. Sounds like they are doing about as expected, eh? :) ) Not that I have seen. I think most things are still in flux, so the beta is the last document that sums up most of the proposed changes. Good quesitons! Need a Paizo rep to answer these. I'm not participating in the beta testing, since after reading through the beta, I didn't see much of anything that caused me to be concerned. Looked like mostly interesting ideas to me that will easily dovetail with 3.5. If some things don't make it in the final version, that's OK, and if all of them make it, I'll probably play it or steal what I want for my 3.5 game. The only thing I saw in the beta that I hated was the change to the wish spell that required you have to reduce an ability score to raise another one (this seemed really, really lame to me). Of course, probably 95% of gamers will never use that spell anyway. [/QUOTE]

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