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<blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4555086" data-attributes="member: 43283">What you're talking about in a number of respects sounds like something I experimented with...Take the monster you happen to be messing around with, and make it a &quot;template&quot; and then slap it onto Foe Facotry: Modern:<a href="http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?cPath=272_3997&amp;products_id=51080" target="_blank">EN World PDF Store - Adamant Entertainment - FOE FACTORY: MODERN</a>I used the pricing system from Grim Tales/upper_krust instead of the prices in the Foe Factory and it seemed to work well enough. Next time I run a D&amp;Dish game I want to try and run all the monsters through this from the beginning. I only messed with it a bit towards the end of the game, so I wasn't able to really &quot;stress test&quot; it seriously. What I did worked out well enough though.As a bonus, because of the way that the Foe Factory thingy is set up, it means you not only can make different &quot;bases&quot; to attach monsters to but that those &quot;bases&quot; will also scale to a degree with the party (if you want).In other words, you could do a &quot;tough fighter base&quot; and then slap a variety of different monster &quot;templates&quot; on top of it. You simply have to calculate out the overall &quot;CR Adjustment&quot; that the monster is going to have.The Foe Factory uses a chart to cross reference stuff and they say at the outset that ranks 2 and 3 (out of 10) are the &quot;average&quot;.Basically, everything would be boiled down to 6 stats and then the special effects/attacks/whatever of the particular critter.For example, this is what the Zombie stat block in its entirety looks like (Foe Factory):The BOLD bits are the actual stats that you come up with using the Foe Factory system, and the ITALIC bits are things that would be reflected in the CR Modifier.To get an idea what that means, here's a zombie looks like when it's set for level 1 using the above values:And here's what it looks like when it's set to level 20 using the same values:Resilience = Saving Throw Bonus (covers all 3) and Competence = Skill bonus. Obviously if you desperately need to reflect a number being higher for some reason, then you can do a modifier of some sort and simply add it to the &quot;CR Adjustment&quot;. The &quot;Attributes&quot; is also where you'd plug in any special feats that your critter has.Is that the sort of thing you're talking about, or am I wildly misunderstanding you?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scurvy_Platypus, post: 4555086, member: 43283"] What you're talking about in a number of respects sounds like something I experimented with... Take the monster you happen to be messing around with, and make it a "template" and then slap it onto Foe Facotry: Modern: [url=http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?cPath=272_3997&products_id=51080]EN World PDF Store - Adamant Entertainment - FOE FACTORY: MODERN[/url] I used the pricing system from Grim Tales/upper_krust instead of the prices in the Foe Factory and it seemed to work well enough. Next time I run a D&Dish game I want to try and run all the monsters through this from the beginning. I only messed with it a bit towards the end of the game, so I wasn't able to really "stress test" it seriously. What I did worked out well enough though. As a bonus, because of the way that the Foe Factory thingy is set up, it means you not only can make different "bases" to attach monsters to but that those "bases" will also scale to a degree with the party (if you want). In other words, you could do a "tough fighter base" and then slap a variety of different monster "templates" on top of it. You simply have to calculate out the overall "CR Adjustment" that the monster is going to have. The Foe Factory uses a chart to cross reference stuff and they say at the outset that ranks 2 and 3 (out of 10) are the "average". Basically, everything would be boiled down to 6 stats and then the special effects/attacks/whatever of the particular critter. For example, this is what the Zombie stat block in its entirety looks like (Foe Factory): The [b]BOLD[/b] bits are the actual stats that you come up with using the Foe Factory system, and the [i]ITALIC[/i] bits are things that would be reflected in the CR Modifier. To get an idea what that means, here's a zombie looks like when it's set for level 1 using the above values: And here's what it looks like when it's set to level 20 using the same values: Resilience = Saving Throw Bonus (covers all 3) and Competence = Skill bonus. Obviously if you desperately need to reflect a number being higher for some reason, then you can do a modifier of some sort and simply add it to the "CR Adjustment". The "Attributes" is also where you'd plug in any special feats that your critter has. Is that the sort of thing you're talking about, or am I wildly misunderstanding you? [/QUOTE]

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