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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4929524" data-attributes="member: 2011">Does this seem reasonable to you?And for me, it is not the number of options at any point in time. I really have no problem with that. I'm 6th level, I have 8 options during a given round of combat.It's the overall restrictions on the use and acquisition of those options. I really feel handcuffed as a player.Want to cast Fly on the Fighter as a Wizard? Sorry, you cannot do that. But an Invoker can do it at level 22.Want to cast Fly as a Wizard more than once per day?Want to cast Fly at the same time you cast Stoneskin? Sorry, you cannot do that until much higher level and you have to restrict your choice of spells in some other way to do this.Want to fly and be a Warlock? Yes, you can do this for an entire round at level 16 with your highest level power. Woo Hoo! More than a round at level 22. Let me get this straight. I'm a level 21 Demigod Warlock, but I cannot find a way to cross country fly?Want to Fly and be a Sorcerer? Well, you cannot fly for long, but you can fly on average more than half of the rounds for short distances and there are many many fly options for you.And how come a Sorcerer can fly at level 2 and allow an ally to fly at level 2 whereas most other Arcane classes have to wait until level 16? How is that balanced?If you are a Scion of Arkhosia, you can effectively hop.I consider this inferior design. Flight is part and parcel of every FRPG out there except 4E DND.Player: &quot;Let's fly to avoid the combat.&quot;DM: &quot;Sorry, the rules do not allow that.&quot;I really don't get it. A first level Eladrin can often Teleport out of melee range, so it shouldn't be a &quot;the PC is out of range of melee attacks&quot; issue. I don't understand the rationale behind the nerfs in this case.So yes, unnerfing some 4E spells would be great. They threw the baby out with the bath water.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4929524, member: 2011"] Does this seem reasonable to you? And for me, it is not the number of options at any point in time. I really have no problem with that. I'm 6th level, I have 8 options during a given round of combat. It's the overall restrictions on the use and acquisition of those options. I really feel handcuffed as a player. Want to cast Fly on the Fighter as a Wizard? Sorry, you cannot do that. But an Invoker can do it at level 22. Want to cast Fly as a Wizard more than once per day? Want to cast Fly at the same time you cast Stoneskin? Sorry, you cannot do that until much higher level and you have to restrict your choice of spells in some other way to do this. Want to fly and be a Warlock? Yes, you can do this for an entire round at level 16 with your highest level power. Woo Hoo! More than a round at level 22. Let me get this straight. I'm a level 21 Demigod Warlock, but I cannot find a way to cross country fly? Want to Fly and be a Sorcerer? Well, you cannot fly for long, but you can fly on average more than half of the rounds for short distances and there are many many fly options for you. And how come a Sorcerer can fly at level 2 and allow an ally to fly at level 2 whereas most other Arcane classes have to wait until level 16? How is that balanced? If you are a Scion of Arkhosia, you can effectively hop. I consider this inferior design. Flight is part and parcel of every FRPG out there except 4E DND. Player: "Let's fly to avoid the combat." DM: "Sorry, the rules do not allow that." I really don't get it. A first level Eladrin can often Teleport out of melee range, so it shouldn't be a "the PC is out of range of melee attacks" issue. I don't understand the rationale behind the nerfs in this case. So yes, unnerfing some 4E spells would be great. They threw the baby out with the bath water. [/QUOTE]

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