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<blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 4930457" data-attributes="member: 70267">So my problem (once again), is that the things being discussed in this thread are irrelevant.&nbsp;If 5e comes out and it is identical to 4e, but the wizard casts fly at 2nd level and rituals are now all free to cast and take 1 round, will you be impressed?&nbsp; Motivated to buy all their products again?&nbsp;All the stuff coming up here is too *small*.&nbsp; You all use something for an example, and then it gets fixated on.&nbsp;I think that as far as changes go, your overall point is valid, it would be nice to have a wizard that felt like gandalf, but i am not sure that is going to happen.&nbsp;Did anyone here ever play Saga edition?&nbsp; Did you happen to play with a Jedi in your group?&nbsp; How long before you just started phoning it in?&nbsp; Or jumping in front of blaster bolts so you could roll up a Jedi, too?&nbsp;If you make one class that much more . . .versatile, impressive, and powerful, then anyone who is *not* playing that class has to struggle just to get some spotlight time.&nbsp;I'd like there to be some pizzaz to the wizard, but only if they sauce up the rest of the classes, too.&nbsp; I don't play Saga anymore for a reason.&nbsp;Jay</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Turtlejay, post: 4930457, member: 70267"] So my problem (once again), is that the things being discussed in this thread are irrelevant. If 5e comes out and it is identical to 4e, but the wizard casts fly at 2nd level and rituals are now all free to cast and take 1 round, will you be impressed? Motivated to buy all their products again? All the stuff coming up here is too *small*. You all use something for an example, and then it gets fixated on. I think that as far as changes go, your overall point is valid, it would be nice to have a wizard that felt like gandalf, but i am not sure that is going to happen. Did anyone here ever play Saga edition? Did you happen to play with a Jedi in your group? How long before you just started phoning it in? Or jumping in front of blaster bolts so you could roll up a Jedi, too? If you make one class that much more . . .versatile, impressive, and powerful, then anyone who is *not* playing that class has to struggle just to get some spotlight time. I'd like there to be some pizzaz to the wizard, but only if they sauce up the rest of the classes, too. I don't play Saga anymore for a reason. Jay [/QUOTE]

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