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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7507044" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>This is pretty much it. It's not that it's never in the game. Just that it's not a focus of play. Something minor that's handled in the background? Not a problem. Telling the PC that he must now undergo a months long quest at the behest of Correlon? Not groovy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not about discarding anything though. The Background (to use the mechanical term) stuff STILL exists in the game. It's right there. It's not removed from the game at all. The warlock still has a patron, the paladin still has an oath. It's just that the DM does not do anything with it. The presumption here, is, of course, that you can trust your players not to be asshats. </p><p></p><p>The paladin example is really a good one. Maybe my concept is "shining knight of virtue". I'm going to play a really stereotypical paladin in the vein of Captain America. He's a really, really good guy. But, I don't want to futz about with the DM dropping Oath based challenges - here, save the little girl or stop the bad guy, what do you do? - here, what do you do about orc babies? - here, how do you judge someone who stole food to feed his sick sister?, on and on. I just want to get on with playing my concept of the character. We take the whole "shining knight" thing as written and move on from there.</p><p></p><p>This isn't about stripping anything out of the character at all. It's about the player telling the GM, "No, I do not want to deal with X. X only applies to my character and I'm not interested in it. Please do not bring X into the game." </p><p></p><p>Another really good example might be the "oddball" character. That Tiefling or Dragonborn or druid with a bear companion. That sort of thing. The player might background the race or the companion. So, in play, we don't worry about townsfolk coming after my character with pitchforks or what do we do with this bear while we're in town. It fades into the background - not that it's not there, it is. It's just not a focus of play. So, sure, color NPC's as giving dirty looks or maybe the bear stays outside of town. But, no one tries to murder my character and the bear just hangs out out of town without worrying about random encounters or whatnot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7507044, member: 22779"] This is pretty much it. It's not that it's never in the game. Just that it's not a focus of play. Something minor that's handled in the background? Not a problem. Telling the PC that he must now undergo a months long quest at the behest of Correlon? Not groovy. It's not about discarding anything though. The Background (to use the mechanical term) stuff STILL exists in the game. It's right there. It's not removed from the game at all. The warlock still has a patron, the paladin still has an oath. It's just that the DM does not do anything with it. The presumption here, is, of course, that you can trust your players not to be asshats. The paladin example is really a good one. Maybe my concept is "shining knight of virtue". I'm going to play a really stereotypical paladin in the vein of Captain America. He's a really, really good guy. But, I don't want to futz about with the DM dropping Oath based challenges - here, save the little girl or stop the bad guy, what do you do? - here, what do you do about orc babies? - here, how do you judge someone who stole food to feed his sick sister?, on and on. I just want to get on with playing my concept of the character. We take the whole "shining knight" thing as written and move on from there. This isn't about stripping anything out of the character at all. It's about the player telling the GM, "No, I do not want to deal with X. X only applies to my character and I'm not interested in it. Please do not bring X into the game." Another really good example might be the "oddball" character. That Tiefling or Dragonborn or druid with a bear companion. That sort of thing. The player might background the race or the companion. So, in play, we don't worry about townsfolk coming after my character with pitchforks or what do we do with this bear while we're in town. It fades into the background - not that it's not there, it is. It's just not a focus of play. So, sure, color NPC's as giving dirty looks or maybe the bear stays outside of town. But, no one tries to murder my character and the bear just hangs out out of town without worrying about random encounters or whatnot. [/QUOTE]
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