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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Black Kestrel" data-source="post: 3073391" data-attributes="member: 4903">I've replied to several topics like this on both the Enworld and Wizards boards. The Mecha system presented in in d20 Future isn't bad, but it isn't great. It's fatal flaw is that it is a slot based, modular system that doesn't provide you with the rules on how to buld your own modules to place in the slots. There are more problems with it than that and several posters have elaborated on them in this thread already.In contrast there is the d20 Mecha system from the now, unfortunately defunct Gaurdians of Order (get it here while you can: <a href="http://www.guardiansorder.com/games/d20/srd/)" target="_blank">http://www.guardiansorder.com/games/d20/srd/)</a>. It is by far the best Mecha (and power armor and vehicle and starship etc.) creation system for d20. It was designed in partial collabaration with Dream Pod 9 (the makers of Heavy Gear and the excellent Silhouette system). While it too suffers from some flaws (mostly erratad already) it provides an internally logical system from designing your vehicle, to the weapon systems on the vehicle, to exotic abilities like regeneration and transformable mecha. I highly recommend it for all your mecha (and power armor and vehicle and starship etc.) needs. It is compatble with d20 Modern and with d20 Future (though a little dated as Future was published after d20 Mecha). If you have the money I highly recommend Dream Pod 9's Mecha Compendium Deluxe (<a href="http://www.dp9.com/Products/D20Mecha.htm" target="_blank">http://www.dp9.com/Products/D20Mecha.htm</a>) which has the full d20 Mecha creation rules along 14 (!!!) example settings with several mecha designs each.For Arrgh! Mark!The qoute you're thinking of came from me and was used to describe the differences between d20 Future Mecha and d20 Mecha Mecha. D20 Future mecha are battleships armed with spit balls and d20 Mecha Mecha are eggshells armed with howitzers.</blockquote>

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