Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What Do Dwarves Eat?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6531936" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Dale was the principle supplier of food to Erebor. And it's easy to see that - even in the aftermath of the Dragon - the descendants of Dale were still prominent traders in agricultural products, acting as middle men between the wood elf Kingdom in the North, and the province of Dorwinnen in the south. It would not be unreasonable to assume that they also traded with the Dwarves of the Iron Mountains and even at the extent of their range the men of Rhun to the east. And as the text points out, there are far more people (humans and even hobbits) living in the portions of the map marked as 'wild' as people from places like the Shire actually believe.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The movies are evidence of nothing. IMO they are best ignored.</p><p></p><p>The internal evidence of the text is that Laketown was a major hub in the agricultural trade. The elves were clearly buying wine, apples, butter, and other goods from Laketown. Some of it - such as apples and grain - was probably produced locally. Others, like the wine, was explicitly in the text brought up the river from Gondor. We can presume that tea and similar commodities was being exported in from Rhun via some sort of 'silk road', and coffee likely up from as far away as Far Harad. All of this is implied by the text just not usually explicitly called out, but at times the vast largely invisible web of traders that make the economy of middle earth run is an important plot point of The Lord of the Rings, as when the Hobbits find barrels of premium Shire tobacco in the ruin of Isengard. It's implied from the text that the Baggins became wealthy as grocers, and it seems highly likely to me that the Sackville-Baggins represent a union in marriage of the Shire's two most prominent grocery families, producing a virtual monopoly on the storage and distribution of food stuffs (mills, warehouses, transport, etc.). </p><p></p><p>Tolkien had the heart of a DM. Erebor and all of Middle Earth was intended to be completely internally consistent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6531936, member: 4937"] Dale was the principle supplier of food to Erebor. And it's easy to see that - even in the aftermath of the Dragon - the descendants of Dale were still prominent traders in agricultural products, acting as middle men between the wood elf Kingdom in the North, and the province of Dorwinnen in the south. It would not be unreasonable to assume that they also traded with the Dwarves of the Iron Mountains and even at the extent of their range the men of Rhun to the east. And as the text points out, there are far more people (humans and even hobbits) living in the portions of the map marked as 'wild' as people from places like the Shire actually believe. The movies are evidence of nothing. IMO they are best ignored. The internal evidence of the text is that Laketown was a major hub in the agricultural trade. The elves were clearly buying wine, apples, butter, and other goods from Laketown. Some of it - such as apples and grain - was probably produced locally. Others, like the wine, was explicitly in the text brought up the river from Gondor. We can presume that tea and similar commodities was being exported in from Rhun via some sort of 'silk road', and coffee likely up from as far away as Far Harad. All of this is implied by the text just not usually explicitly called out, but at times the vast largely invisible web of traders that make the economy of middle earth run is an important plot point of The Lord of the Rings, as when the Hobbits find barrels of premium Shire tobacco in the ruin of Isengard. It's implied from the text that the Baggins became wealthy as grocers, and it seems highly likely to me that the Sackville-Baggins represent a union in marriage of the Shire's two most prominent grocery families, producing a virtual monopoly on the storage and distribution of food stuffs (mills, warehouses, transport, etc.). Tolkien had the heart of a DM. Erebor and all of Middle Earth was intended to be completely internally consistent. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What Do Dwarves Eat?
Top