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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8894381" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>I made a post before showing what a kick starter with a 20% royalty over 750k would look like </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/example-of-what-20-looks-like.694253/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>lets take some quick math here on 25% over 7k compared to flat 7%</p><p></p><p>now of course anything under 750k that flat 7% is a lot more then 0</p><p></p><p>at 1 mil that is 25% of $250,000 is $62,500</p><p>at 1 mil 7% overall is $70,000</p><p>at 1 mil 6% overall is $60,000</p><p></p><p>so on a 1 mil kick starter it is about 6% off the top... remember CC and KS both take a cut too... I would need someone that has run a KS to confirm but I am betting 6% is MORE then the average profit on a TTRPG KS, but not more then the MOST profit on a TTRPG KS</p><p></p><p>Remember that what you pay retail is not what the wholesalers at Amazon or FLGS pay... they get a 40-55% discount, so a $50 book to you may only be getting the publisher $25-$30 having to increase that by 6% doesn't sound SO bad until you see the ripples...</p><p>lets say I sell to your FLGS for $30 and to amazon for $25 (bulk diffrence) I now need to add 6% and that is $1.80 so the store now pays $32 and amazon pays $27 that means the new price to YOU is $52 at the store or $40 at amazon instead of $50 or $38</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8894381, member: 67338"] I made a post before showing what a kick starter with a 20% royalty over 750k would look like [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/example-of-what-20-looks-like.694253/[/URL] lets take some quick math here on 25% over 7k compared to flat 7% now of course anything under 750k that flat 7% is a lot more then 0 at 1 mil that is 25% of $250,000 is $62,500 at 1 mil 7% overall is $70,000 at 1 mil 6% overall is $60,000 so on a 1 mil kick starter it is about 6% off the top... remember CC and KS both take a cut too... I would need someone that has run a KS to confirm but I am betting 6% is MORE then the average profit on a TTRPG KS, but not more then the MOST profit on a TTRPG KS Remember that what you pay retail is not what the wholesalers at Amazon or FLGS pay... they get a 40-55% discount, so a $50 book to you may only be getting the publisher $25-$30 having to increase that by 6% doesn't sound SO bad until you see the ripples... lets say I sell to your FLGS for $30 and to amazon for $25 (bulk diffrence) I now need to add 6% and that is $1.80 so the store now pays $32 and amazon pays $27 that means the new price to YOU is $52 at the store or $40 at amazon instead of $50 or $38 [/QUOTE]
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