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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 2666115" data-attributes="member: 9254"><p>Mechanics are straightforward stat+skill+/-modifiers in d6s vs. target number 5. Edge (the stat that replaces Karma Pool) adds extra dice *AND* allows you to re-roll 6s to get extra successes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>yeah, they've assumed that ~75% of the internet is wireless and that even systems that aren't will probably be accessible through a wireless access point. Your deck has been replaced with a Commlink (think a Treo650 on steroids). Most gear can communicate through skinlink (induction connection using the wearer as the databus) or wirelessly (like via bluetooth and/or wifi) so you can get by with less cyber. </p><p></p><p>Secure areas will have limited wifi access using jammers, shielding, and low-power communication gear so you'll have to have proximity (aka "breaking in physically") to manipulate anything. You don't have to be full VR to do "light" decking; you can use heads-up displays and other sensory overlays (referred to as "Augmented reality") to interface with the matrix. </p><p></p><p>Hacking is a lot better done. You can finesse a username & password over several hours that you can hand off to someone else (great for NPC hackers) or your can try break in over a few combat rounds but with a greater chance of setting off alarms. Once you're in a system you would either do a datasearch to find what you're after and copy/edit it or you would scan the network for devices to take control of. </p><p></p><p>As long as you are issuing commands appropriate to your access level, things are hunky-dory (no more supressing security alerts). Once you start breaking the law (e.g. controlling elevators as a secretary) the system will begin running diagnostics to try and identify you while your stealth software tries to make you blend into the background. </p><p></p><p>Deckers and riggers are pretty similar these days. Anyone can use VR and Command programs to jump into devices or run them via "captain's chair" mode. The VCR has become an advanced tactile response unit (0.5 essence) that gives riggers +2 bonus dice. This is good since it doubles up the utility without much cost to skills. Expect many non-riggers to have a micro (golf-ball sized) drone just to do a little short-range scouting. </p><p></p><p>All in all, the fundamental mechanics are about as easy/difficult to learn as d20. The complexities of the matrix & magic are about equal to clerical/divine/memorized/spontaneous casting, with the combat modifiers about even.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 2666115, member: 9254"] Mechanics are straightforward stat+skill+/-modifiers in d6s vs. target number 5. Edge (the stat that replaces Karma Pool) adds extra dice *AND* allows you to re-roll 6s to get extra successes. yeah, they've assumed that ~75% of the internet is wireless and that even systems that aren't will probably be accessible through a wireless access point. Your deck has been replaced with a Commlink (think a Treo650 on steroids). Most gear can communicate through skinlink (induction connection using the wearer as the databus) or wirelessly (like via bluetooth and/or wifi) so you can get by with less cyber. Secure areas will have limited wifi access using jammers, shielding, and low-power communication gear so you'll have to have proximity (aka "breaking in physically") to manipulate anything. You don't have to be full VR to do "light" decking; you can use heads-up displays and other sensory overlays (referred to as "Augmented reality") to interface with the matrix. Hacking is a lot better done. You can finesse a username & password over several hours that you can hand off to someone else (great for NPC hackers) or your can try break in over a few combat rounds but with a greater chance of setting off alarms. Once you're in a system you would either do a datasearch to find what you're after and copy/edit it or you would scan the network for devices to take control of. As long as you are issuing commands appropriate to your access level, things are hunky-dory (no more supressing security alerts). Once you start breaking the law (e.g. controlling elevators as a secretary) the system will begin running diagnostics to try and identify you while your stealth software tries to make you blend into the background. Deckers and riggers are pretty similar these days. Anyone can use VR and Command programs to jump into devices or run them via "captain's chair" mode. The VCR has become an advanced tactile response unit (0.5 essence) that gives riggers +2 bonus dice. This is good since it doubles up the utility without much cost to skills. Expect many non-riggers to have a micro (golf-ball sized) drone just to do a little short-range scouting. All in all, the fundamental mechanics are about as easy/difficult to learn as d20. The complexities of the matrix & magic are about equal to clerical/divine/memorized/spontaneous casting, with the combat modifiers about even. [/QUOTE]
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