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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2297308" data-attributes="member: 4937">Under the rules, you are completely correct.&nbsp; I derive my conclusions based off two things.&nbsp; First, that my way is more interesting.&nbsp; Second, that almost every other DM in the history of the game (going back to Gygax) has been so tempted by the flavor of zombies and skeletons as foes, that they couldn't pass up using them as generic low level undead foes and rules be darned.&nbsp; The evil high priest isn't high enough level to animate dead, much less control all the undead in the temple?&nbsp; The general responce by DM's to that seems to be &quot;So what?&nbsp; Don't let rule technicalities get in the way of the fun!&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; The way I describe the situation comes much closer to explaining the behavior of skeletons and zombies in published modules and I would expect most DM's actual campaigns.I mean technically if we take the above assertion literally, then uncontrolled mindless undead should just set there and let themselves be hacked to peices, since they are now berift of any orders and won't roll initiative even to defend themselves?Besides which, &quot;does only what it is ordered to do&quot; is pretty vague considering the creature is 'mindless'.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just how complex of a set of instructions can it understand?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2297308, member: 4937"] Under the rules, you are completely correct. I derive my conclusions based off two things. First, that my way is more interesting. Second, that almost every other DM in the history of the game (going back to Gygax) has been so tempted by the flavor of zombies and skeletons as foes, that they couldn't pass up using them as generic low level undead foes and rules be darned. The evil high priest isn't high enough level to animate dead, much less control all the undead in the temple? The general responce by DM's to that seems to be "So what? Don't let rule technicalities get in the way of the fun!" The way I describe the situation comes much closer to explaining the behavior of skeletons and zombies in published modules and I would expect most DM's actual campaigns. I mean technically if we take the above assertion literally, then uncontrolled mindless undead should just set there and let themselves be hacked to peices, since they are now berift of any orders and won't roll initiative even to defend themselves? Besides which, "does only what it is ordered to do" is pretty vague considering the creature is 'mindless'. Just how complex of a set of instructions can it understand? [/QUOTE]

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