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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5430015" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p><strong><span style="color: red">And this is where Dandu eggs him on. I can always tell a problematic post; it's the one where someone starts quoting and dissecting every single line. Look, folks. Be polite to one another, even when you don't agree, and don't look for offense where none is intended. ~ Piratecat</span></strong></p><p></p><p>... no. No it would not be.</p><p></p><p>cheat (ch<img src="http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/emacr.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />t)<em>v.</em> <strong>cheat·ed</strong>, <strong>cheat·ing</strong>, <strong>cheats</strong> </p><p><em>v.</em><em>tr.</em><strong>1. </strong> To deceive by trickery; swindle: cheated customers by overcharging them for purchases.</p><p><strong>2. </strong> To deprive by trickery; defraud: cheated them of their land.</p><p><strong>3. </strong> To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye.</p><p><strong>4. </strong> To elude; escape: cheat death.</p><p></p><p><em>v.</em><em>intr.</em><strong>1. </strong> To act dishonestly; practice fraud.</p><p><strong>2. </strong> To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.</p><p><strong>3. </strong> <em>Informal</em> To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse.</p><p><strong>4. </strong> <em>Baseball</em> To position oneself closer to a certain area than is normal or expected: The shortstop cheated toward second base.</p><p></p><p><em>n.</em><strong>1. </strong> An act of cheating; a fraud or swindle.</p><p><strong>2. </strong> One who cheats; a swindler.</p><p><strong>3. </strong> A computer application, password, or disallowed technique used to advance to a higher skill level in a computer video game.</p><p><strong>4. </strong> <em>Law</em> Fraudulent acquisition of another's property.</p><p><strong>5. </strong> <em>Botany</em> An annual European species of brome grass <em>(Bromus secalinus)</em> widely naturalized in temperate regions.</p><p></p><p>You are not doing any of that, so I doubt the term "cheating" is appropriate.</p><p></p><p>How is PAing for slightly less suddenly "playing with kid gloves"? You're not in the Cobra Kai. You don't have some sensei with anger management issues drilling "No mercy!" into your head ever time he comes on screen. You're introducing a false dichotomy; there is room between "RAWR POWER ATTACK FOR FULL" and "I poke it with my stick". Just because your monster isn't trying to murder PCs in the most brutal and effective manner possible does not mean you're babying your players.</p><p></p><p>I must have misread the statement where you said PA was important if melee characters wanted to deal more than 50 damage?</p><p></p><p>Except that you don't have that much reach as a melee character (Lightening Bolt goes on for 120 ft; Superior Cleave only allows one 5ft step; a melee character's reach is going to be about 20 ft excluding cheese), and the odds of dropping a room full of mooks with cleaving attacks is low unless they are really weak, in which case you've invested several feats in efficiently dispatching insignificant threats. It's really hard to kill off a room of higher HP enemies because have to basically one shot everyone in your reach in order to make use of your great cleavage. </p><p></p><p>Dealing damage is one of the few things that melee are good at when it comes to combat (the only thing they can do). The other thing is battlefield control within their personal space, ie lockdown. That's it, two things. Restricting an already narrow set of options seems like a really bad decision.</p><p></p><p>Your nerfing something that didn't need to be nerfed in the first place!</p><p></p><p>That makes me a sad panda. It's like Pathfinder all over again.</p><p></p><p>tl;dr The reason why I feel like Monica Lewinsky after reading your posts (in that I have a bad taste in my mouth) is because it seems like you're fixing things by taking away options instead of adding them, and players hate having things taken away <em>especially when the thing being taken away was perfectly balanced</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 5430015, member: 85158"] [b][color=red]And this is where Dandu eggs him on. I can always tell a problematic post; it's the one where someone starts quoting and dissecting every single line. Look, folks. Be polite to one another, even when you don't agree, and don't look for offense where none is intended. ~ Piratecat[/color][/b][color=red][/color] ... no. No it would not be. cheat (ch[IMG]http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/emacr.gif[/IMG]t)[I]v.[/I] [B]cheat·ed[/B], [B]cheat·ing[/B], [B]cheats[/B] [I]v.[/I][I]tr.[/I][B]1. [/B] To deceive by trickery; swindle: cheated customers by overcharging them for purchases. [B]2. [/B] To deprive by trickery; defraud: cheated them of their land. [B]3. [/B] To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye. [B]4. [/B] To elude; escape: cheat death. [I]v.[/I][I]intr.[/I][B]1. [/B] To act dishonestly; practice fraud. [B]2. [/B] To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards. [B]3. [/B] [I]Informal[/I] To be sexually unfaithful: cheat on a spouse. [B]4. [/B] [I]Baseball[/I] To position oneself closer to a certain area than is normal or expected: The shortstop cheated toward second base. [I]n.[/I][B]1. [/B] An act of cheating; a fraud or swindle. [B]2. [/B] One who cheats; a swindler. [B]3. [/B] A computer application, password, or disallowed technique used to advance to a higher skill level in a computer video game. [B]4. [/B] [I]Law[/I] Fraudulent acquisition of another's property. [B]5. [/B] [I]Botany[/I] An annual European species of brome grass [I](Bromus secalinus)[/I] widely naturalized in temperate regions. You are not doing any of that, so I doubt the term "cheating" is appropriate. How is PAing for slightly less suddenly "playing with kid gloves"? You're not in the Cobra Kai. You don't have some sensei with anger management issues drilling "No mercy!" into your head ever time he comes on screen. You're introducing a false dichotomy; there is room between "RAWR POWER ATTACK FOR FULL" and "I poke it with my stick". Just because your monster isn't trying to murder PCs in the most brutal and effective manner possible does not mean you're babying your players. I must have misread the statement where you said PA was important if melee characters wanted to deal more than 50 damage? Except that you don't have that much reach as a melee character (Lightening Bolt goes on for 120 ft; Superior Cleave only allows one 5ft step; a melee character's reach is going to be about 20 ft excluding cheese), and the odds of dropping a room full of mooks with cleaving attacks is low unless they are really weak, in which case you've invested several feats in efficiently dispatching insignificant threats. It's really hard to kill off a room of higher HP enemies because have to basically one shot everyone in your reach in order to make use of your great cleavage. Dealing damage is one of the few things that melee are good at when it comes to combat (the only thing they can do). The other thing is battlefield control within their personal space, ie lockdown. That's it, two things. Restricting an already narrow set of options seems like a really bad decision. Your nerfing something that didn't need to be nerfed in the first place! That makes me a sad panda. It's like Pathfinder all over again. tl;dr The reason why I feel like Monica Lewinsky after reading your posts (in that I have a bad taste in my mouth) is because it seems like you're fixing things by taking away options instead of adding them, and players hate having things taken away [I]especially when the thing being taken away was perfectly balanced[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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