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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5433338" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Maybe. But, if I painted a picture and asked some stranger what he thought of it, and they really thought it looked like someone's butt and it really did want to make them gouge his eyes out with a dull spoon, then that's what I'd want them to say. The last thing I need is someone bolstering my ego (which I have a surplus of) or trying to save my feelings (which, being almost autistic I don't have a lot of).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Because it's a social game and that idea cannot be perfectly achieved. Everyone's play impacts everyone elses play, and everyone's play impacts everyone elses ability to enjoy the game. One thing that has to be avoided at the table and which is absolutely wrecking to the game is a player trying to monopolize the game. That can happen in several ways. One way is a player builds a mechanically broken character and then proceeds to solve all the parties challenges single handedly. Another way it can happen is for a player to become a tedious amateur actor, roleplaying out at real time length every conversation with every passing farmer and merchant, spending 15 minutes haggling over the price of a peck of oranges and another 10 minutes discussing the weather and the prospects of a good wheat crop this year. Another way it can happen is if the player tries to grab spot light at all times, usually by playing some sort of wildly anti-social, kooky, 'humorous', "Tasselhoff Burrfoot" sort of character and then whenever they don't feel like they are the center of attention doing whatever they can to derail the game while saying that they are 'staying true to the character'.</p><p></p><p>These are classic play issues that have been around and discussed since the '70's, and when someone declares the intention to play "Beardfist Fistbeard" and describes a drunk that pummels you to death with his beard, I tend to get the impression that not only do we have incompatible gaming interests but that we have a player who is likely to create intraparty conflict unless every single player at the table is going for 'gonzo' and additionally willing to share spotlight.</p><p></p><p>Now, if the player is willing to moderate himself, 'gonzo crazies', 'amateur thespians', and 'power gamers' can all contribute to successful and enjoyable play with each player bring something valuable to the table.</p><p></p><p>But 'Beardfist Fistbeard' is just dumb.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5433338, member: 4937"] Maybe. But, if I painted a picture and asked some stranger what he thought of it, and they really thought it looked like someone's butt and it really did want to make them gouge his eyes out with a dull spoon, then that's what I'd want them to say. The last thing I need is someone bolstering my ego (which I have a surplus of) or trying to save my feelings (which, being almost autistic I don't have a lot of). Because it's a social game and that idea cannot be perfectly achieved. Everyone's play impacts everyone elses play, and everyone's play impacts everyone elses ability to enjoy the game. One thing that has to be avoided at the table and which is absolutely wrecking to the game is a player trying to monopolize the game. That can happen in several ways. One way is a player builds a mechanically broken character and then proceeds to solve all the parties challenges single handedly. Another way it can happen is for a player to become a tedious amateur actor, roleplaying out at real time length every conversation with every passing farmer and merchant, spending 15 minutes haggling over the price of a peck of oranges and another 10 minutes discussing the weather and the prospects of a good wheat crop this year. Another way it can happen is if the player tries to grab spot light at all times, usually by playing some sort of wildly anti-social, kooky, 'humorous', "Tasselhoff Burrfoot" sort of character and then whenever they don't feel like they are the center of attention doing whatever they can to derail the game while saying that they are 'staying true to the character'. These are classic play issues that have been around and discussed since the '70's, and when someone declares the intention to play "Beardfist Fistbeard" and describes a drunk that pummels you to death with his beard, I tend to get the impression that not only do we have incompatible gaming interests but that we have a player who is likely to create intraparty conflict unless every single player at the table is going for 'gonzo' and additionally willing to share spotlight. Now, if the player is willing to moderate himself, 'gonzo crazies', 'amateur thespians', and 'power gamers' can all contribute to successful and enjoyable play with each player bring something valuable to the table. But 'Beardfist Fistbeard' is just dumb. [/QUOTE]
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