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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5434680" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>This is called passive aggressively pretending to have the moral high ground. Instead of actually countering my arguments or presenting your own, you are going to talk about how much you've been insulted and how I'm not actually presenting counter-arguments.</p><p></p><p>But I doubt you are fooling very many people with that stance. I've not only countered your arguments, but I've countered the straw men that you've came up with as well. And that's a statement that unlike the one you just presented I can back with evidence from the thread. You accused me of dislikeing multiclassing (which I didn't say) because it was power-gaming. But that statement stood in direct contrast to things I'd said in this thread. When I asked you to produce quotes backing up your claim, you produced two quotes from a post where I'd talked about how 'gonzo' game stances could be every bit as dysfunctional as power gaming. Now, I wasn't even saying that all multiclassing was 'gonzo'. But I even more obviously wasn't saying that all multiclassing was power gaming, because what I was complaining about mostly was 'gonzo'. </p><p></p><p>About the only thing I agree with you on is that this conversation has gone way down hill. Instead of people wanting to talk about what is banned and why, those of us who have chosen to ban things are being forced to defend the decision to do so from people who have no actual interest in the topic except to say that "people who ban things are having badwrongfun". </p><p></p><p>And you have the temerity and lack of self-reflection to jump in here after saying that, "If you don't play D&D my way, you shouldn't play D&D at all.", to claim that I'm the one who is being beligerant. I'm not the one who started the whole, "That's not the right way to play." I've been the target of veiled insults, textual eye-rolling, and snark ever since I stated, "Well, I banned a lot of things as part of overhauling the game." </p><p></p><p>Since you are now so disgusted, can we have our topic back now?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5434680, member: 4937"] This is called passive aggressively pretending to have the moral high ground. Instead of actually countering my arguments or presenting your own, you are going to talk about how much you've been insulted and how I'm not actually presenting counter-arguments. But I doubt you are fooling very many people with that stance. I've not only countered your arguments, but I've countered the straw men that you've came up with as well. And that's a statement that unlike the one you just presented I can back with evidence from the thread. You accused me of dislikeing multiclassing (which I didn't say) because it was power-gaming. But that statement stood in direct contrast to things I'd said in this thread. When I asked you to produce quotes backing up your claim, you produced two quotes from a post where I'd talked about how 'gonzo' game stances could be every bit as dysfunctional as power gaming. Now, I wasn't even saying that all multiclassing was 'gonzo'. But I even more obviously wasn't saying that all multiclassing was power gaming, because what I was complaining about mostly was 'gonzo'. About the only thing I agree with you on is that this conversation has gone way down hill. Instead of people wanting to talk about what is banned and why, those of us who have chosen to ban things are being forced to defend the decision to do so from people who have no actual interest in the topic except to say that "people who ban things are having badwrongfun". And you have the temerity and lack of self-reflection to jump in here after saying that, "If you don't play D&D my way, you shouldn't play D&D at all.", to claim that I'm the one who is being beligerant. I'm not the one who started the whole, "That's not the right way to play." I've been the target of veiled insults, textual eye-rolling, and snark ever since I stated, "Well, I banned a lot of things as part of overhauling the game." Since you are now so disgusted, can we have our topic back now? [/QUOTE]
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