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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5435641" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Let's put it this way, I can create a class that does 2000 points of damage per round, with all the different books I have access to. Some of them aren't by WotC, and some of them you might not have.</p><p></p><p>However, because I said so, you should just let me play that character.</p><p></p><p>Munchkin...of course not...let me see...</p><p></p><p>First he was part of the Rebel alliance, who then was shot forward a LONG TIME into the Future to a VERY FAR FAR away place where he joined into an evil empire where he tricked up into learning the elite secrets of archery...but then due to an unfortunate accident ended up on the Astral Plane and learned personal abilities from the Lord of Pain...and which point he upset the Lady of Trothes and agreements so I had to escape into the Abyss at which point I became part Demon and learned some evil pacts...and finally found a portal to the world where our party is and joined up...</p><p></p><p>Who am to care that you only have an 2 hours to prepare the campaign before hand...and 5 other players...DANG IT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT MINE. If you don't have enough time...WELL I'M MORE IMPORTANT!!!</p><p></p><p>Do you care that I'm going to be doing more damage then the entire party put together most likely?</p><p></p><p>Now I would have problems with this (except in my FR campaigns again...but they ARE munchkin campaigns) and the above thought process. I don't have time to go looking up your PrC if I don't want to...or multiple ones. Note...are they in the core books? NO? Okay...</p><p></p><p>You don't have to play in my campaign. In fact...none of you play in my campaign?</p><p></p><p>So why are you arguing about something none of my players have a problem with. You aren't my players.</p><p></p><p>Why do you want to dictate the way we do things?</p><p></p><p>People asked what I banned and why. I stated them. You don't like it, fine. Continue to play games the way you do...but don't try to tell us how we have to play or that we have to play like you either.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and if you really have a problem...perhaps don't play NWN (fine game) which also limits your MC numbers...and don't play in a Core Rules game only which you won't find a few of the PrC's you seem to want to allow with a certain build...</p><p></p><p>If I'm dm'ing, and that's my style...perhaps I'd rather be playing football, or baseball, or watching sports or even spending time with my family then looking up things?</p><p></p><p>OH...and if you hadn't caught it...I DO allow anything goes in certain campaigns...thank you very much...so perhaps I have reasons for my groups I play with the 3 class limit as to WHY I don't allow certain things and WHY I ban them...because they work for who I play with.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you've never had to deal with players picking fights with each other because they feel someone is too munchkin...or arguing about why someone shouldn't be allowed to play at the table. I HAVE. There was ONE EASY CURE FOR IT. I'm not going to allow something like that to cause problems. The easiest cure was to limit to 3 classes and IT WORKS. Period. You have a problem with it...fine...I'm not stopping your game. Go play YOUR game and let us play ours.</p><p></p><p>However...If I ever game with you...and you are serious...I DO expect you to allow my build...regardless of how cheesy my backstory is...or how munchkin my character is...</p><p></p><p>you can check it right before we begin the game session to see what I can do...in the five minutes we have before we start playing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5435641, member: 4348"] Let's put it this way, I can create a class that does 2000 points of damage per round, with all the different books I have access to. Some of them aren't by WotC, and some of them you might not have. However, because I said so, you should just let me play that character. Munchkin...of course not...let me see... First he was part of the Rebel alliance, who then was shot forward a LONG TIME into the Future to a VERY FAR FAR away place where he joined into an evil empire where he tricked up into learning the elite secrets of archery...but then due to an unfortunate accident ended up on the Astral Plane and learned personal abilities from the Lord of Pain...and which point he upset the Lady of Trothes and agreements so I had to escape into the Abyss at which point I became part Demon and learned some evil pacts...and finally found a portal to the world where our party is and joined up... Who am to care that you only have an 2 hours to prepare the campaign before hand...and 5 other players...DANG IT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT MINE. If you don't have enough time...WELL I'M MORE IMPORTANT!!! Do you care that I'm going to be doing more damage then the entire party put together most likely? Now I would have problems with this (except in my FR campaigns again...but they ARE munchkin campaigns) and the above thought process. I don't have time to go looking up your PrC if I don't want to...or multiple ones. Note...are they in the core books? NO? Okay... You don't have to play in my campaign. In fact...none of you play in my campaign? So why are you arguing about something none of my players have a problem with. You aren't my players. Why do you want to dictate the way we do things? People asked what I banned and why. I stated them. You don't like it, fine. Continue to play games the way you do...but don't try to tell us how we have to play or that we have to play like you either. Oh, and if you really have a problem...perhaps don't play NWN (fine game) which also limits your MC numbers...and don't play in a Core Rules game only which you won't find a few of the PrC's you seem to want to allow with a certain build... If I'm dm'ing, and that's my style...perhaps I'd rather be playing football, or baseball, or watching sports or even spending time with my family then looking up things? OH...and if you hadn't caught it...I DO allow anything goes in certain campaigns...thank you very much...so perhaps I have reasons for my groups I play with the 3 class limit as to WHY I don't allow certain things and WHY I ban them...because they work for who I play with. Perhaps you've never had to deal with players picking fights with each other because they feel someone is too munchkin...or arguing about why someone shouldn't be allowed to play at the table. I HAVE. There was ONE EASY CURE FOR IT. I'm not going to allow something like that to cause problems. The easiest cure was to limit to 3 classes and IT WORKS. Period. You have a problem with it...fine...I'm not stopping your game. Go play YOUR game and let us play ours. However...If I ever game with you...and you are serious...I DO expect you to allow my build...regardless of how cheesy my backstory is...or how munchkin my character is... you can check it right before we begin the game session to see what I can do...in the five minutes we have before we start playing. [/QUOTE]
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