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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5443434" data-attributes="member: 65637"><p>I will agree that Shadow Hand (which is just Ninjutsu) and Setting Sun (which is Judo) are based on eastern martial arts.</p><p></p><p>I will also say that <em>no others</em> are.</p><p></p><p>Diamond Mind is painfully obviously Fencing: the School. Stone Dragon is basically just Dwarven Fighting Style. Iron Heart is <em>every classical hero</em>. Desert Wind - look, it's called Desert Wind and uses scimitars, and while I guess the <em>Middle</em> East counts as being "eastern" that ain't what they mean. White Raven is based on leadership, not any specific style of martial arts. Tiger Claw is Tarzan mixed with werewolves. Devout Heart is, like Stone Dragon, Paladin Fighting Style.</p><p></p><p>That's two out of eight that are based on eastern martial arts. Prognosis doesn't look good.</p><p></p><p>As for western styles, you already have fencing as was previously mentioned. There's also Pankration for greek wrestling. The germans had a <em>huge</em> number of martial art styles. The Italians on the other hand <em>did</em> have surviving manuscripts, as did the French style of pole-axe fighting. Even the English had a few sword centered styles. And wrestling was very, very important in training and learning.</p><p></p><p>It wasn't until the Baroque that wrestling and more "crude" fighting styles fell from favor. Even though the Renaissance, there were new western styles being developed.</p><p></p><p>The idea that ToB has to be eastern because western fighters didn't have maneuvers and stances is bizarre, to say the least. It's also flat out wrong. Literally factually incorrect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 5443434, member: 65637"] I will agree that Shadow Hand (which is just Ninjutsu) and Setting Sun (which is Judo) are based on eastern martial arts. I will also say that [I]no others[/I] are. Diamond Mind is painfully obviously Fencing: the School. Stone Dragon is basically just Dwarven Fighting Style. Iron Heart is [I]every classical hero[/I]. Desert Wind - look, it's called Desert Wind and uses scimitars, and while I guess the [I]Middle[/I] East counts as being "eastern" that ain't what they mean. White Raven is based on leadership, not any specific style of martial arts. Tiger Claw is Tarzan mixed with werewolves. Devout Heart is, like Stone Dragon, Paladin Fighting Style. That's two out of eight that are based on eastern martial arts. Prognosis doesn't look good. As for western styles, you already have fencing as was previously mentioned. There's also Pankration for greek wrestling. The germans had a [I]huge[/I] number of martial art styles. The Italians on the other hand [I]did[/I] have surviving manuscripts, as did the French style of pole-axe fighting. Even the English had a few sword centered styles. And wrestling was very, very important in training and learning. It wasn't until the Baroque that wrestling and more "crude" fighting styles fell from favor. Even though the Renaissance, there were new western styles being developed. The idea that ToB has to be eastern because western fighters didn't have maneuvers and stances is bizarre, to say the least. It's also flat out wrong. Literally factually incorrect. [/QUOTE]
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