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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5443814" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Wow, you're seriously criticizing the practicality of eastern MA while talking about your familiarity with fencing? I did fencing for a year in college, nothing much, but learned the basics. I remember my first time practicing a match with someone. He lunged forward with his foil, I did a slight step back and evade and simultaneously thrust my foil forward to take advantage of him overextending himself. Except I didn't get a point, because he had "right of way" and i was on defense, so it didn't count. Cause in an actual swordfight, getting stabbed in the chest totally doesn't hurt if you were ramming your body straight into it at the time, right? I knew practically nothing about fencing at that point, but you don't need much expertise to spot bs. Epee is much better at being practical, but you happened to mention foil.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reference? If he did say something like that, he could have still meant it differently or far less broadly than you're trying to claim.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You need to take your Hong Kong action flicks less seriously. That's a really gross generalization of Eastern MA that's either grand exaggeration or wholly incorrect, depending on the particular MA you're talking about. My friend took Kempo and showed me some of the kata he was learning, I thought it was kind of silly at first. Then he had me attack him different ways and showed me how they were used to defend and counter common attacks and ultimately were used to teach muscle memory and they made a lot more sense to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's no more Eastern MA than Western. And there's nothing abnormal about meditating before going into combat. The whole maneuvers system, again, is the fantasy aspect. Call it Vancian spellcasting if you want, it's a logical extension of real life for a fantasy game, to meditate to gain special combat techinques, just like a bard using music to produce supernatural effects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5443814, member: 35909"] Wow, you're seriously criticizing the practicality of eastern MA while talking about your familiarity with fencing? I did fencing for a year in college, nothing much, but learned the basics. I remember my first time practicing a match with someone. He lunged forward with his foil, I did a slight step back and evade and simultaneously thrust my foil forward to take advantage of him overextending himself. Except I didn't get a point, because he had "right of way" and i was on defense, so it didn't count. Cause in an actual swordfight, getting stabbed in the chest totally doesn't hurt if you were ramming your body straight into it at the time, right? I knew practically nothing about fencing at that point, but you don't need much expertise to spot bs. Epee is much better at being practical, but you happened to mention foil. Reference? If he did say something like that, he could have still meant it differently or far less broadly than you're trying to claim. You need to take your Hong Kong action flicks less seriously. That's a really gross generalization of Eastern MA that's either grand exaggeration or wholly incorrect, depending on the particular MA you're talking about. My friend took Kempo and showed me some of the kata he was learning, I thought it was kind of silly at first. Then he had me attack him different ways and showed me how they were used to defend and counter common attacks and ultimately were used to teach muscle memory and they made a lot more sense to me. It's no more Eastern MA than Western. And there's nothing abnormal about meditating before going into combat. The whole maneuvers system, again, is the fantasy aspect. Call it Vancian spellcasting if you want, it's a logical extension of real life for a fantasy game, to meditate to gain special combat techinques, just like a bard using music to produce supernatural effects. [/QUOTE]
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