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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5444782" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>If I am not mistaken, the topic of this thread was, "What do you ban?"</p><p></p><p>My answer to that question was, "Well, I ban almost everything."</p><p></p><p>For that answer I have, and continue recieve, insults against my character, intelligence, and rationality. For example, I'm now being accused of being "tyrannical" and apparantly abusing my players because I don't allow everything that WotC printed for 3.5. (!!!) Not that it matters, but I counter that it would be far more abusive of my players to declare that every bit of text WotC printed for 3.5 was in effect, given the vast bulk of material that would mean, the huge economic cost that would impose on new players who wanted access to the rules, and tremendous variances in quality found in that material. </p><p></p><p>It is because of the attacks on me that I've taken some pains to say why I ban most everything published for 3.5. My answer to the more responsible sorts of attacks - into which yours does not fall; namely, that in banning this or that I'm creating this or that unforeseen consequence, which quite often are accompanied with the charge that I'm morally or intellectually defective for having done so, is often in fact, "No, I foresaw that would be a problem so I corrected the problem with some comprehensive and holistic change." I'm not defending 3.5 as a system. I'm not defending the RAW, so there is nothing spurious about me answering why I made a house rule by citeing another house rule. If it's a lot of work, why is that your problem? But, frankly I shouldn't have to be answering most of those sorts of attacks, and most of the questions aren't prompted by intellectual curiousity but by no other apparant desire than to be insulting. That they try to veil it behind rhetorical questions makes it no less so.</p><p></p><p>May I point out that as of the great forum merger, this is now the house rules forum. I was quite content to discuss questions about house ruling in a forum only visited by those that care about house ruling without having persons such as yourself, questioning my intelligence, moral character, and rationality when I discussed house rules. Why the heck in a thread about house ruling which material is included in your campaign should I assume that we are staying "as close to RAW as possible"? </p><p></p><p>Why should I now have to put up with a bunch of crusading defenders of the RAW who see it as their job to smite down anyone who alters the rules in in a thread and forum about house rules? You call this an "internet debate". To my knowledge it was never intended to be a debate at all. I didn't post to this thread with the intention of defending myself or engaging in a debate, much less that you were going to be set the terms of what I was allowed to discuss to not include "house rules" in a thread that is inherently about DM's excercising Rule 0. I post in threads in the hope that the person asking the original question is geuninely curious and in hopes I can be helpful. I don't do so in hopes to get in a debate with a pack of fools, which I could do anywhere, and not have to come to EnWorld for.</p><p></p><p>I should very much like to discuss the topic at hand. I think I have actually done so when I'm allowed to. As I have said before however, there are a number of posters in this thread with no interest in the topic at hand who refuse to allow anyone to discuss it in peace and whose sole interest in the thread is a chance to tell those people who do ban some things (of which I'm admittedly an extreme case) that they are having badwrongfun.</p><p></p><p>If in fact the moderators now jump down my throat because I've used 'trigger words', I don't really care anymore. This thread is getting tiresome and its been a while since its been on topic. I plan this weekend to do prep work for the next session of my campaign, and if I get jumped on now well the hypocricy of them doing so is their's to live with and a vacation from the forums will cause me no harm or grief.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5444782, member: 4937"] If I am not mistaken, the topic of this thread was, "What do you ban?" My answer to that question was, "Well, I ban almost everything." For that answer I have, and continue recieve, insults against my character, intelligence, and rationality. For example, I'm now being accused of being "tyrannical" and apparantly abusing my players because I don't allow everything that WotC printed for 3.5. (!!!) Not that it matters, but I counter that it would be far more abusive of my players to declare that every bit of text WotC printed for 3.5 was in effect, given the vast bulk of material that would mean, the huge economic cost that would impose on new players who wanted access to the rules, and tremendous variances in quality found in that material. It is because of the attacks on me that I've taken some pains to say why I ban most everything published for 3.5. My answer to the more responsible sorts of attacks - into which yours does not fall; namely, that in banning this or that I'm creating this or that unforeseen consequence, which quite often are accompanied with the charge that I'm morally or intellectually defective for having done so, is often in fact, "No, I foresaw that would be a problem so I corrected the problem with some comprehensive and holistic change." I'm not defending 3.5 as a system. I'm not defending the RAW, so there is nothing spurious about me answering why I made a house rule by citeing another house rule. If it's a lot of work, why is that your problem? But, frankly I shouldn't have to be answering most of those sorts of attacks, and most of the questions aren't prompted by intellectual curiousity but by no other apparant desire than to be insulting. That they try to veil it behind rhetorical questions makes it no less so. May I point out that as of the great forum merger, this is now the house rules forum. I was quite content to discuss questions about house ruling in a forum only visited by those that care about house ruling without having persons such as yourself, questioning my intelligence, moral character, and rationality when I discussed house rules. Why the heck in a thread about house ruling which material is included in your campaign should I assume that we are staying "as close to RAW as possible"? Why should I now have to put up with a bunch of crusading defenders of the RAW who see it as their job to smite down anyone who alters the rules in in a thread and forum about house rules? You call this an "internet debate". To my knowledge it was never intended to be a debate at all. I didn't post to this thread with the intention of defending myself or engaging in a debate, much less that you were going to be set the terms of what I was allowed to discuss to not include "house rules" in a thread that is inherently about DM's excercising Rule 0. I post in threads in the hope that the person asking the original question is geuninely curious and in hopes I can be helpful. I don't do so in hopes to get in a debate with a pack of fools, which I could do anywhere, and not have to come to EnWorld for. I should very much like to discuss the topic at hand. I think I have actually done so when I'm allowed to. As I have said before however, there are a number of posters in this thread with no interest in the topic at hand who refuse to allow anyone to discuss it in peace and whose sole interest in the thread is a chance to tell those people who do ban some things (of which I'm admittedly an extreme case) that they are having badwrongfun. If in fact the moderators now jump down my throat because I've used 'trigger words', I don't really care anymore. This thread is getting tiresome and its been a while since its been on topic. I plan this weekend to do prep work for the next session of my campaign, and if I get jumped on now well the hypocricy of them doing so is their's to live with and a vacation from the forums will cause me no harm or grief. [/QUOTE]
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