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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3381318" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Heh.</p><p></p><p>Well, it would. Getting decent with any other sort of weapon is harder than getting decent with a rifle. That's sort of the point.</p><p></p><p>I personally think a bayonet should be a simple weapon. It's a horribly ineffective highly mythologized weapon which was often abandoned by experienced soldiers in favor of swinging your musket like a club. Only relatively tiny number of people in world history were actually killed by a bayonet, even back when firearms were relatively ineffective. But its a relatively simple weapon, basically a short clumsy spear. Anyone proficient in a spear would get the basic gist of a bayonet.</p><p></p><p>Let me go off on a tangent to say that the weapon list prices, categories, weights, and most everything else (range increments I'm looking at you!) are primarily designed for balance/and or pulled straight out of the air and do not have any basis in realism. Things are simple weapons if they are - at least according to the mechanics - relativing inferior weapons as opposed to relatively easy to use. If it comes down to what it takes to become proficient in thier use to categorize a weapon, the sling should be an exotic weapon (it should probably also have a range increment longer than any other weapon except the longbow and the heavy crossbow). After all, the sling was in many ways the longbow of antiquity, and slinger mercenaries were paid higher wages than just about any auxilleries in the Roman legions because they could out range and out rate of fire anything else available. And the sling bullet actually has better effect on 'soft' armors than an arrow from a short bow, because even if it doesn't penetrate it has far greater momentum - breaking and crushing much as a bullet from a gun breaks ribs even through a bullet proof vest. And, like the longbow being essentially a Welsh weapon (at least in the West), good slingers only came from two places in the ancient world, Sicily and Judea, because - like the longbow - you pretty much had to have been training since you could walk.</p><p></p><p>But because the D&D mechanics don't reflect these qualities, the sling is a simple weapon and little used even then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3381318, member: 4937"] Heh. Well, it would. Getting decent with any other sort of weapon is harder than getting decent with a rifle. That's sort of the point. I personally think a bayonet should be a simple weapon. It's a horribly ineffective highly mythologized weapon which was often abandoned by experienced soldiers in favor of swinging your musket like a club. Only relatively tiny number of people in world history were actually killed by a bayonet, even back when firearms were relatively ineffective. But its a relatively simple weapon, basically a short clumsy spear. Anyone proficient in a spear would get the basic gist of a bayonet. Let me go off on a tangent to say that the weapon list prices, categories, weights, and most everything else (range increments I'm looking at you!) are primarily designed for balance/and or pulled straight out of the air and do not have any basis in realism. Things are simple weapons if they are - at least according to the mechanics - relativing inferior weapons as opposed to relatively easy to use. If it comes down to what it takes to become proficient in thier use to categorize a weapon, the sling should be an exotic weapon (it should probably also have a range increment longer than any other weapon except the longbow and the heavy crossbow). After all, the sling was in many ways the longbow of antiquity, and slinger mercenaries were paid higher wages than just about any auxilleries in the Roman legions because they could out range and out rate of fire anything else available. And the sling bullet actually has better effect on 'soft' armors than an arrow from a short bow, because even if it doesn't penetrate it has far greater momentum - breaking and crushing much as a bullet from a gun breaks ribs even through a bullet proof vest. And, like the longbow being essentially a Welsh weapon (at least in the West), good slingers only came from two places in the ancient world, Sicily and Judea, because - like the longbow - you pretty much had to have been training since you could walk. But because the D&D mechanics don't reflect these qualities, the sling is a simple weapon and little used even then. [/QUOTE]
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