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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4832318" data-attributes="member: 9789">To address a couple of specifics:- It's hard to limit your selections (or ban items) when "everything is core."  I appreciate this advice and its simplicity, and it's not a bad solution if you only play in one group or if everyone agrees that effectively "ok, not everything is core".  But even without those issues there comes a time when enough is enough and I'm tired of being the one who has to go through everything and figure out what's broken so I know what to look out for.  I thought I paid the publishers to do that.- 3.5, for its flaws, was a very different animal (and production model) than 4.0.  For one, the core books were published - and revised - a while before the supplement machine really got rolling.  And supplements weren't produced every month at a breakneck pace (until toward end - and that's when things started to really fall apart in the same way).  They had about 3 years to refine the product before they really ramped up production, and I think that helped.  Yes, it had flaws, and yes, they were exploitable, but most of those flaws seemed to come more from a difficulty in expressing rules in language, whereas 4.0 flaws seem to be more mechanically based.  Is this a byproduct of an improved language system, or were the 3.5 flaws also mechanically based but just disguised by the language?  Those are fair questions, but it doesn't seem like that to me.I understand that not everyone is going to go through these mechanics with a fine toothed comb and that some of these issues simply are not issues for others, and that is completely and totally ok.  In fact, that's great - more power to you.  But it's just not that way for me.  Each of these problems seems like a little "trap" that you have to avoid or deal with that the publishers should have already addressed.  And each one takes a little bit more of my time and enjoyment with it each time I encounter it.  And at this point, I'm just running out of patience.</blockquote>

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