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<blockquote data-quote="Kyramus" data-source="post: 1399877" data-attributes="member: 7072">In my game, I told players that they can choose a surface to roll on.&nbsp; Most choose books or table or on their character sheets.&nbsp; They roll and it stays on that surface, so that I can see the results and continue.I have been known to call for d20 rolls for no reason.&nbsp; They think it's for spot or listen but it's just to throw them off.&nbsp; If a player fudges all the time, even with fake rolls. Then you can confirm it was the player.&nbsp; Finally if he continues to fudge, the other players will see it since you want to see the results and unable. If he picks it up nanoseconds before you can see it, then tell him to rll it again.&nbsp; It does not count if you didn't see the results.&nbsp; The only thing you have to watch for is a deliberate grabbing of the dice cause it's a low roll and they are doing it just for the re-roll.I've rolled all my dice in the open with my players.&nbsp; If they start to cheat, I tell them it's either on the table where I can see it, or I put up my screen and you won't see the critical hit coming.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; If it persists, it might be time to pull him to the side and have a one on one talk.&nbsp; Make him understand that you notice this attitude, and that you aren't like the other DM who gunned down his character, that you are impartial and youw ant it fair for everyone.&nbsp; If he/she doesn't want to listen to this arguement, then it would be better off to let them go find another group.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kyramus, post: 1399877, member: 7072"] In my game, I told players that they can choose a surface to roll on. Most choose books or table or on their character sheets. They roll and it stays on that surface, so that I can see the results and continue. I have been known to call for d20 rolls for no reason. They think it's for spot or listen but it's just to throw them off. If a player fudges all the time, even with fake rolls. Then you can confirm it was the player. Finally if he continues to fudge, the other players will see it since you want to see the results and unable. If he picks it up nanoseconds before you can see it, then tell him to rll it again. It does not count if you didn't see the results. The only thing you have to watch for is a deliberate grabbing of the dice cause it's a low roll and they are doing it just for the re-roll. I've rolled all my dice in the open with my players. If they start to cheat, I tell them it's either on the table where I can see it, or I put up my screen and you won't see the critical hit coming. :) If it persists, it might be time to pull him to the side and have a one on one talk. Make him understand that you notice this attitude, and that you aren't like the other DM who gunned down his character, that you are impartial and youw ant it fair for everyone. If he/she doesn't want to listen to this arguement, then it would be better off to let them go find another group. [/QUOTE]

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