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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 1399946" data-attributes="member: 10177">I am an open confrontation kind of guy. Just tell the whole group that you want to see everyone's dice rolls because you want to know nobody is cheating. The non-cheaters should have no problem with this. The cheater doesn't dare show he has a problem wiht it. So everyone will say &quot;OK&quot; and then you go on.Piratecat is right. When they are cheaters they tend to cheat in many ways. Insist on having copies of their characters, with all resources listed. You need this anyway, to make sure you design encounters they can beat. Also house rule that if it isn't on your copy of their character it doesn't exist. This is to motivate them to keep their character record updated for you. This also covers you when the cheater tries to cheat. &quot;Sorry, that isn't on the character sheet.&quot;Of course the trick there is to tell them how you have another copy of their character on your computer, so that you will look &quot;over&quot; their changes when you input it into the computer. Gives you an original copy they can't alter.All of these will conspire to make the cheater &quot;afraid&quot; to cheat. After all, it is something they do not want to get caught at. If they are afraid they will get caught, they are less likely to do it.If you ever do confront them do not give them room to deny it. Cite specific rolls you know they cheated on, or other specific things to &quot;prove&quot; you know they cheat. Then go on talking to them like it is irrefutable fact. Their conscience will make them quit denying it. Then you might find out the real reason for their cheating. You can make a cheater stop cheating. Eventually, you won't even have to watch them any more. Hopefully your friend isn't a &quot;die hard&quot; cheater. They will never quit cheating, even after they have been caught several times. Those you have to deal with in whatever way you are willing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 1399946, member: 10177"] I am an open confrontation kind of guy. Just tell the whole group that you want to see everyone's dice rolls because you want to know nobody is cheating. The non-cheaters should have no problem with this. The cheater doesn't dare show he has a problem wiht it. So everyone will say "OK" and then you go on. Piratecat is right. When they are cheaters they tend to cheat in many ways. Insist on having copies of their characters, with all resources listed. You need this anyway, to make sure you design encounters they can beat. Also house rule that if it isn't on your copy of their character it doesn't exist. This is to motivate them to keep their character record updated for you. This also covers you when the cheater tries to cheat. "Sorry, that isn't on the character sheet." Of course the trick there is to tell them how you have another copy of their character on your computer, so that you will look "over" their changes when you input it into the computer. Gives you an original copy they can't alter. All of these will conspire to make the cheater "afraid" to cheat. After all, it is something they do not want to get caught at. If they are afraid they will get caught, they are less likely to do it. If you ever do confront them do not give them room to deny it. Cite specific rolls you know they cheated on, or other specific things to "prove" you know they cheat. Then go on talking to them like it is irrefutable fact. Their conscience will make them quit denying it. Then you might find out the real reason for their cheating. You can make a cheater stop cheating. Eventually, you won't even have to watch them any more. Hopefully your friend isn't a "die hard" cheater. They will never quit cheating, even after they have been caught several times. Those you have to deal with in whatever way you are willing. [/QUOTE]

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