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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 5538225" data-attributes="member: 12460">Let me try and keep things in perspective here. Unless the players have stated quite clearly that they don't want any challenge in their games whatsoever, part of the DM's place at the table is to provide appropriate challenges. Sometimes DMs slip up and accidentally let an item slide into the game that they shouldn't have because it makes it difficult to challenge the players properly. Hindsight being 20/20, they would never have allowed it in the first place. But now the game risks becoming droll and boring because of the sheer presence of the item.An excellent example is an item that is extremely powerful in the hands of only one character at the table for one reason or another. Any creature with a CR well over the party's level that goes toe-to-toe with that character plus the item gets obliterated. Meanwhile the rest of the PCs would have a hard time working against the monster with the rest of them combined. The monster might be a fair challenge for the one PC, but might slaughter another PC in one hit.These situations do come up, and even if you didn't &quot;roll&quot; your loot it doesn't mean you can't make a terrible mistake when you pick the loot yourself (few DMs are so perfect). So again, let's try to keep perspective here. What do you do when such an item rears its ugly head but you've already let the proverbial cat out of the bag?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 5538225, member: 12460"] Let me try and keep things in perspective here. Unless the players have stated quite clearly that they don't want any challenge in their games whatsoever, part of the DM's place at the table is to provide appropriate challenges. Sometimes DMs slip up and accidentally let an item slide into the game that they shouldn't have because it makes it difficult to challenge the players properly. Hindsight being 20/20, they would never have allowed it in the first place. But now the game risks becoming droll and boring because of the sheer presence of the item. An excellent example is an item that is extremely powerful in the hands of only one character at the table for one reason or another. Any creature with a CR well over the party's level that goes toe-to-toe with that character plus the item gets obliterated. Meanwhile the rest of the PCs would have a hard time working against the monster with the rest of them combined. The monster might be a fair challenge for the one PC, but might slaughter another PC in one hit. These situations do come up, and even if you didn't "roll" your loot it doesn't mean you can't make a terrible mistake when you pick the loot yourself (few DMs are so perfect). So again, let's try to keep perspective here. What do you do when such an item rears its ugly head but you've already let the proverbial cat out of the bag? [/QUOTE]

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