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<blockquote data-quote="R-Hero" data-source="post: 5538496" data-attributes="member: 23687">This happened to my group a few years ago.&nbsp; I was playing a Paladin/Anointed Knight.&nbsp; I added &quot;Stunning Surge&quot; to his ancestrial relic.The Dungeon Masters Guide II had several quick action enhancements for weapons.&nbsp; Stunning Surge had made the save for the surge attempt a Reflex save and it was 1+1d4 rounds on the duration. (maybe just 1d4, its been a couple of years)&nbsp; Use per day was tied into Charisma, which the Pal/Knight had in spades.We were playing Age of Worms competing for the Champions Belt in the gladitorial games.&nbsp; It was fun at first to see the DM roll his eyes when a surge would take out a key member or two. When the Froghemouth failed its save and went down in one round, we decided that it was overpowered and nerfed it back to Fort save for one round. (Like a Stunning Fist attack)I have been lucky that the games I have been involved in are mostly mature enough to police themselves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="R-Hero, post: 5538496, member: 23687"] This happened to my group a few years ago. I was playing a Paladin/Anointed Knight. I added "Stunning Surge" to his ancestrial relic. The Dungeon Masters Guide II had several quick action enhancements for weapons. Stunning Surge had made the save for the surge attempt a Reflex save and it was 1+1d4 rounds on the duration. (maybe just 1d4, its been a couple of years) Use per day was tied into Charisma, which the Pal/Knight had in spades. We were playing Age of Worms competing for the Champions Belt in the gladitorial games. It was fun [B]at first [/B]to see the DM roll his eyes when a surge would take out a key member or two. When the Froghemouth failed its save and went down in one round, we decided that it was overpowered and nerfed it back to Fort save for one round. (Like a Stunning Fist attack) I have been lucky that the games I have been involved in are mostly mature enough to police themselves. [/QUOTE]

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