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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 148226" data-attributes="member: 172">What I expect is some rules that will handle characters higher than 20th level.I also expect not to use it regularly. In fact, I expect to only use about 10% of the book.I am not excited about the epic level book. I'll dispense with the term &quot;munchkin&quot; for now, because munchkin is usually a term for &quot;gamers whose style I don't like.&quot;To me, it's simply just not necessary. I can perfectly understand why someone would get a thrill out of having a character progress in power until they are a force to be reckoned with. However, I just fail to see how a 20th level character doesn't fill that need. All this talk of epic spells and hideously high save DCs seem like flavorless piling on of numbers to me.Further, one survey (on the AskTheDM ML) suggested that about one percent of players play games in the 20+ level region. Now you might argue that is because of lack of the rules for such things. However, the numbers for the higher levels pretty uniformly taper off in general, so I wouldn't attribute it to that.So essentially what I see happening is the production of a huge book for a small percentage of the audience. I imagine that most people are like me and will primarily use it for those few 21st-30th level characters that exist in the background of the game. But really, I think just handling that amount of content could have been done in a 96-page softcover. A 320-page book seems like overkill to me.Of course I may be pleasantly surprised and they may come out with something really exciting. But if you want to know what I expect, there ya go.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psion, post: 148226, member: 172"] What I expect is some rules that will handle characters higher than 20th level. I also expect not to use it regularly. In fact, I expect to only use about 10% of the book. I am not excited about the epic level book. I'll dispense with the term "munchkin" for now, because munchkin is usually a term for "gamers whose style I don't like." To me, it's simply just not necessary. I can perfectly understand why someone would get a thrill out of having a character progress in power until they are a force to be reckoned with. However, I just fail to see how a 20th level character doesn't fill that need. All this talk of epic spells and hideously high save DCs seem like flavorless piling on of numbers to me. Further, one survey (on the AskTheDM ML) suggested that about one percent of players play games in the 20+ level region. Now you might argue that is because of lack of the rules for such things. However, the numbers for the higher levels pretty uniformly taper off in general, so I wouldn't attribute it to that. So essentially what I see happening is the production of a huge book for a small percentage of the audience. I imagine that most people are like me and will primarily use it for those few 21st-30th level characters that exist in the background of the game. But really, I think just handling that amount of content could have been done in a 96-page softcover. A 320-page book seems like overkill to me. Of course I may be pleasantly surprised and they may come out with something really exciting. But if you want to know what I expect, there ya go. [/QUOTE]

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