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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CreamCloud0" data-source="post: 9896717" data-attributes="member: 7034710">okay, you misunderstand my point i think, this is not me saying thematic curated settings shouldn't exist (i think thematic curated settings are great in fact) or that people shouldn't want setting elements to be highly connected.this is me saying that people are reluctant to ever take ebberon-original elements out of ebberon and adapt them to other settings, the first run of their concept was so tied into their setting that people seem incapable of imagining any other origins as a result, the creation forges seem to be the one and only creation myth allowed for the warforged and well, the creation forges only exist in ebberon so it's impossible for them to exist anywhere else it seems! but that's not really true is it? and yet nobody seems to go 'okay, so the creation forges don't exist here, what could be a new, reasonable and well connected origin for them in THIS setting?' you have wizards in every setting that could've come up with them, you have tinker gnomes inventing all sorts of things, you could've had them literally dug up from the ground as remnants of a long forgotten civilization, ancient super civilizations are nearly a dime a dozen in fantasy, but nobody does those, because warforged are made in creation forges and creation forges only exist in ebberon.</blockquote>