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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1490578" data-attributes="member: 9002">nopeThere is just not a lot I can say.&nbsp; You simply make a terrible argument.So the tribe figures out the phonograph.&nbsp; You grant me that.&nbsp; But never a MP3!&nbsp; Well, maybe... actually, an MP3 works in much the same way (push button hear music) but... you claim the INTERNALS of the MP3 are not explained to them so it's still &quot;like magic.&quot;Which is how the rest of your post goes... I don't understand WINDOWS-NT so, well, it's &quot;magic.&quot;&nbsp; A circuit board is &quot;unrepairable&quot; so it's &quot;magical.&quot;Rubbish.Utter bunk.I don't understand Windows-NT, but I feel no awe about it.&nbsp; I'm impressed with the technology; but that's it.&nbsp; Technology is a tool.&nbsp; I can use it, duplicate effects on it; read about it; learn about it; etc.&nbsp; I can learn how an MP3 player is put together;programmed;used.&nbsp; I don't, because it's boring to me.&nbsp; Let the experts do that stuff.&nbsp; That does not mean nobody can.&nbsp; Somebody did, in fact, make the MP3.&nbsp; So, it's not &quot;magically&quot; produced.To sum:&nbsp; technology is not magical in any useful sense of the term &quot;magic&quot;. I don't understand how my stomach works either; yet I still don't have a magical sense of it.&nbsp; If I get stomach cancer, it's &quot;unrepairable,&quot; but that's not pushing it into the realms of magic.&nbsp; Is it?What is your point?Lots of systems are complicated, and on the surface impossible to understand.&nbsp; But, technology (unlike the body) is extremeley easy to &quot;teach&quot; because the effects must/do always repeat.How does the mind work?&nbsp; Dunno.&nbsp; That's closer to &quot;magic&quot; than any lousy technology system.Technology has a very finite &quot;huh? wow!&quot; life.&nbsp; Humans are good at understanding things.&nbsp; This whole &quot;high tech is like magic&quot; junk just seems silly.&nbsp; Clarke's quote simply repeats common sense in a slightly different way.&nbsp; Wow.&nbsp; Thanks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1490578, member: 9002"] [b]nope[/b] There is just not a lot I can say. You simply make a terrible argument. So the tribe figures out the phonograph. You grant me that. But never a MP3! Well, maybe... actually, an MP3 works in much the same way (push button hear music) but... you claim the INTERNALS of the MP3 are not explained to them so it's still "like magic." Which is how the rest of your post goes... I don't understand WINDOWS-NT so, well, it's "magic." A circuit board is "unrepairable" so it's "magical." Rubbish. Utter bunk. I don't understand Windows-NT, but I feel no awe about it. I'm impressed with the technology; but that's it. Technology is a tool. I can use it, duplicate effects on it; read about it; learn about it; etc. I can learn how an MP3 player is put together;programmed;used. I don't, because it's boring to me. Let the experts do that stuff. That does not mean nobody can. Somebody did, in fact, make the MP3. So, it's not "magically" produced. To sum: technology is not magical in any useful sense of the term "magic". I don't understand how my stomach works either; yet I still don't have a magical sense of it. If I get stomach cancer, it's "unrepairable," but that's not pushing it into the realms of magic. Is it? What is your point? Lots of systems are complicated, and on the surface impossible to understand. But, technology (unlike the body) is extremeley easy to "teach" because the effects must/do always repeat. How does the mind work? Dunno. That's closer to "magic" than any lousy technology system. Technology has a very finite "huh? wow!" life. Humans are good at understanding things. This whole "high tech is like magic" junk just seems silly. Clarke's quote simply repeats common sense in a slightly different way. Wow. Thanks. [/QUOTE]

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