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<blockquote data-quote="Samothdm" data-source="post: 1786744" data-attributes="member: 5473">Yeah, you all totally have me thinkin' about everything we've been missing from 1st Edition AD&amp;D:1) Maximum strength limits for women.&nbsp; Women simply can't be as strong as men.&nbsp; Ever.&nbsp; Why did they change that?2) Ability scores between, roughly, 6 and 13 that were all basically equivalent.&nbsp; That was a very good, balance way of handling the ability scores.3) Level limits for &quot;demi-humans&quot;.&nbsp; Elves shouldn't be allowed to surpass humans as wizards because they aren't as magically inclined.&nbsp; It's totally logical that an elf, with a multi-thousand year lifespan, should be limited to 12th level as a wizard.&nbsp; I wish we had those back now in 3rd Edition.&nbsp; 4) Weapon Speed Factors.&nbsp; They totally made combat realistic and easy to manage.&nbsp; You knew that, even if you lost the initiative, you could attack with your dagger first because it was faster than your opponent's battle axe, which was slower than that guy's halberd, who also had a higher initiative.&nbsp; Or something.&nbsp; 5) Big huge blocks of text to describe class powers with no tables to break them out.&nbsp; It was much easier to read through massive blocks of text to figure out what exactly the paladin got to do at 6th level.&nbsp; 6) Level titles.&nbsp; They should totally bring back level titles, as someone suggested.&nbsp; It was awesome that your cleric was actually a member of at least four distinctly different earth-based religions that had no relation to the fantasy campaign.&nbsp; &quot;You're a cleric of Odin?&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Yes, I am.&nbsp; Well, no, I'm not a cleric.&nbsp; I'm a Lama.&nbsp; But, next level I'll be a Bishop!&quot;&nbsp; Seriously, I miss the time and place I was in at the point that I was playing 1st Edition D&amp;D.&nbsp; It was fun.&nbsp; But, nostalgia doesn't always make things better.&nbsp; And, as people said, you can't go back.&nbsp; My theory is that the young people who were first exposed to D&amp;D via 3rd Edition will be having these same discussions in 15-20 years about their version of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samothdm, post: 1786744, member: 5473"] Yeah, you all totally have me thinkin' about everything we've been missing from 1st Edition AD&D: 1) Maximum strength limits for women. Women simply [b]can't[/b] be as strong as men. Ever. Why did they change that? 2) Ability scores between, roughly, 6 and 13 that were all basically equivalent. That was a very good, balance way of handling the ability scores. 3) Level limits for "demi-humans". Elves shouldn't be allowed to surpass humans as wizards because they aren't as magically inclined. It's totally logical that an elf, with a multi-thousand year lifespan, should be limited to 12th level as a wizard. I wish we had those back now in 3rd Edition. 4) Weapon Speed Factors. They totally made combat realistic and easy to manage. You knew that, even if you lost the initiative, you could attack with your dagger first because it was faster than your opponent's battle axe, which was slower than that guy's halberd, who also had a higher initiative. Or something. 5) Big huge blocks of text to describe class powers with no tables to break them out. It was much easier to read through massive blocks of text to figure out what exactly the paladin got to do at 6th level. 6) Level titles. They should totally bring back level titles, as someone suggested. It was awesome that your cleric was actually a member of at least four distinctly different earth-based religions that had no relation to the fantasy campaign. "You're a cleric of Odin?" "Yes, I am. Well, no, I'm not a cleric. I'm a Lama. But, next level I'll be a Bishop!" Seriously, I miss the time and place I was in at the point that I was playing 1st Edition D&D. It was fun. But, nostalgia doesn't always make things better. And, as people said, you can't go back. My theory is that the young people who were first exposed to D&D via 3rd Edition will be having these same discussions in 15-20 years about [i]their[/i] version of the game. [/QUOTE]

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