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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7474309" data-attributes="member: 20564">When I'm creating a character for an already existing group, I go "Role first".  What does this group need (and what would be redundant / step on other's toes).  From the available roles in 5e I go concept, class and so forth.I mention 5e because we always use point buy.  In earlier editions where we rolled ability scores, I'd roll first because that will have a big impact on what I could play in terms of MAD vs. SAD.  (Even more so back in AD&D 2nd where the group I was with rolled three sets in order so class choice was strongly dictated by the roles.)Occasional variations happen.  For example, for Out of the Abyss I knew I wanted a race with Darkvision before considering anything else, and since my FLGS is heavy on optimization that I'd want a tight class/race combo.  But that's not the norm.Let em give an example from a game I recently joined.  The group has seven players (including me) and not all make it every session.  They only had a single healer, a life cleric.  So someone who can pinch hit as a healer was a good fit.  Also they had several melee combatants including a tank and some of them were also good ranged combatants.  So weapon-wielders seemed full, and by the same token something like a moon druid would be overlap.I ended up going with a bard.  Some healing, some buffing that would differ from the sorcerer, and various fun bard things.  I ended up going halfling because I had a cool picture in mind.</blockquote>

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