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Message: <blockquote data-quote="johnnype" data-source="post: 4435501" data-attributes="member: 1944">I bought it yesterday and spend a couple hours with it. Overall I'm a bit dissapointed by how light it is when compared to the 3rd edition book. It is certainly a good introduction for those new to the setting but if you are at all familiar to the setting you will find the high level view lacking in detail. The intro adventure/town is a waste of space. There are surprisingly few PC writeups and not much is said about the famous (infamous) NPC's. We do find out that Bruenor is dead. Jarlaxel (sp?) is still around and still leads his band of mercinaries although all the actual work is doen by Kimmuriel, who I'm happy to see they mentioned by name. There is half a page wasted on Elminster only to say that he doesn't play that big a part in the setting any more (thank God). Who the hell cares about the old guy?The Shades are big in the North with Anauroch not really a desert any more. Again, not enough detail. I like the changes to the setting. The addition of the new continent/island certainly breathes new life and much needed change but not enough is said about it. Bottom line: if you like a lot of detail this edition will leave you wanting. If you like "big picture" and a frame to hang your own detail on then you might like this. You will like it even more if you are brand new to the setting. I also took a look at the Pathfinder setting book from Paizo while at the store. I obviously haven't read it and it's not 4th edition (for those who care) but it was much, MUCH more packed with information than the FR book. In fact, all you have to do is hold the book and look closely at the spine and you will see that they front and back cover bulge out a bit, almost as if Paizo screwed up selecting the size of the spine! The size of the spine is a stupid way to judge the book, I know. But as I said I didn't buy it and only spent a couple minutes glancing through it. The text was far more dense than the 4eFR book. Nice artwork (although the piece on cover is a little blurry). It does have a bit more rules material than the FR setting book (for use with the 3.5 rules) but still a very small part of the overall book.  Maybe 10% tops I'd say. I plan on picking it up and giving it a good read. Ultimately it's the text content that will decide which is the better setting for me. I'll start a thread when the time comes.</blockquote>

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