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<blockquote data-quote="RenleyRenfield" data-source="post: 9775729" data-attributes="member: 7044197">So that's still incorrect. &nbsp; There is no actual statement in D&amp;D and GURPS , there is not actual mechanical rule, that says &quot;you rolled to search and time passed and thus GM must roll for an encounter.&quot;&nbsp; That is a wildly incorrect assumption and isn't even stated in OSR games either.&nbsp; Just waving a hand and saying &quot;The GM should invent problems&quot; = isn't a mechanic, and doesn't' even really give a common standard of play - since that statement can be interpreted so many way. I think there needs to be a discussion of &quot;mechanics&quot; are so that there can be understanding of what GM fiat is.&nbsp;&nbsp; Because GM fiat is not a mechanic. Again, a GM populating a dungeon - is just task resolution of encounters!&nbsp;&nbsp; At no point does D&amp;D/GURPS/OSR have a rule that says &quot;if they fails a Search roll, something non-search related happens.&quot;&nbsp; It's a pass/fail result of &quot;i looked for monsters in area, and I found them or I didn't&quot;&nbsp; = that's it.&nbsp; 100% that's all&nbsp; D&amp;D/GURPS/OSR&nbsp; will&nbsp; ever ever ever tell you.. PBTA does, it add utterly new and even sidereal content on ANY given roll, of which nothing need be related to a specific task or can be or not, its not what a Move is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RenleyRenfield, post: 9775729, member: 7044197"] [B]So that's still incorrect. [/B] There is no actual statement in D&D and GURPS , there is not actual mechanical rule, that says "you rolled to search and time passed and thus GM must roll for an encounter." That is a wildly incorrect assumption and isn't even stated in OSR games either. Just waving a hand and saying "The GM should invent problems" = isn't a mechanic, and doesn't' even really give a common standard of play - since that statement can be interpreted so many way. I think there needs to be a discussion of "mechanics" are so that there can be understanding of what GM fiat is. Because GM fiat is not a mechanic. Again, [B]a GM populating a dungeon - is just [I]task resolution [/I]of encounters[/B]! [B]At no point does D&D/GURPS/OSR have a rule that says "if they fails a Search roll, something [I]non-search related happens.[/I]"[/B] It's a pass/fail result of "i looked for monsters in area, and I found them or I didn't" = that's it. 100% that's all D&D/GURPS/OSR will ever ever ever tell you.. PBTA does, it add utterly new and even sidereal content on ANY given roll, of which nothing need be related to a specific task or can be or not, its not what a Move is. [/QUOTE]

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