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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9837635" data-attributes="member: 42582">I think it can be useful to distinguish between establishing consequences of declared actions and framing a (new) scene. Although the borderline is not always clear (and sometimes, even often, it makes sense to describe consequence-narration as reframing a scene), I still think there is a useful difference:*Framing a scene presents an opportunity and/or a threat; *Resolving a declared action, and establishing its consequence, realises the opportunity and/or brings home the threat.The way I've just put it is especially tuned for narrativist(ish) play, and I'm thinking through my recent session of Mythic Bastionland (which was 100% gamist, in the Big Model lexicon) to see if the above still fits. Probably "obstacle" rather than "threat" works better for that sort of play. But I still think the contrast holds.In this example, the opportunity provided by the ravine is to have a new scene framed on the other side of the ravine (and the threat is that a new scene will be framed in the ravine).But what about action declarations that aren't aimed at establishing new scenes, but rather other sorts of goals/stakes within a scene?(As a bit of an aside, and in the context of "modern mechanics", I think the integration of action resolution and scene framing via PC movement - which is such a big deal in so much RPGing - shows the huge footprint of the Gygax/Arneson dungeon exploration game.)</blockquote>

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