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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9845105" data-attributes="member: 42582">I don't disagree with you about the mechanics, and some of their emergent consequences. But I think I do disagree a bit about how much this produces story.The main RPG I've played (GMed) recently is Torchbearer 2e. It certainly ticks your first box (gp aren't XP, but there are other features of the game that makes every player motivated to have their PC obtain loot). But exactly this feature tends to somewhat lessen its story-esque orientation compared to its sibling Burning Wheel.Like classic D&D, TB2e also has a strong inventory management aspect. And while this is interesting and quite fun in play - eg it's the only RPG I've ever played where so much turns on whether or not the PCs have shoes, and where wearing out your shoes hiking is a serious risk - I don't think this necessarily conduces to story.I've not done any OSR RPGing in the strictest sense. Over the past decade, the only classic sort of play I've done is actually classic - sessions of AD&D (using my own version of the rules, that integrates a few bits of OA, UA and 2nd ed PC build) and Moldvay Basic. But I did recently run a session of Mythic Bastionland, and anticipate playing it some more. And in play, I was very struck by how gamist it is - much more than I anticipated, meaning that the relationship between play and the obvious thematic elements of the game was quite different from what I'd expected.</blockquote>

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