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<blockquote data-quote="DarkKestral" data-source="post: 3795922" data-attributes="member: 40100"><p>To Mouse: While I'm perfectly OK with designers not talking about every change under the sun, but when you majorly change what is a major part of the default setting, I'd sure like to know why, if it will not be too difficult to say concisely, because too much change without explanation leaves me cold. And I'm fairly sure I'm not alone there. If have cold feet, I won't buy. So in the end, I've generally bought the most stuff from designers who've given some explanations for their biggest changes because it's a lot easier to follow the hows and whys of a major topic or change when the designer clues me in to the reasoning they used. They may not owe me an explanation. They may not get my money either.</p><p></p><p>Even if there isn't a reason given now for the change to the entire structure, If I get one later, that'd be great. I'm just in my initial shock phase, and for a while probably won't see the reasons for it unless someone can articulate them to me. Obviously, a lot like the changes. I'm never quite sure how accurate these polls are, but if they're true, I gather most don't mind. So at least they don't appear to be too unpopular. I'll give the designers that. And so far, their mechanics notions appear to be in line with what I like. So, on balance, I've liked what I saw. And there's bits I think are great. And I'll give props to the WotC guys. They've generally been fairly open and forthcoming about things, considering.</p><p></p><p>Mike: actually, I don't mind the erinyes in general being freed up from being a sex fiend (pun unintended) if it means I get a new one that's more "spirit of vengeance"-like. But I do want an erinyes, because I think the mythological monster is too cool to give up. That's all. Can a guy not feel annoyed by the loss of a particular favorite monster? And likewise, the succubus has a long history outside of D&D. Sex monsters go way back in heroic literature...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkKestral, post: 3795922, member: 40100"] To Mouse: While I'm perfectly OK with designers not talking about every change under the sun, but when you majorly change what is a major part of the default setting, I'd sure like to know why, if it will not be too difficult to say concisely, because too much change without explanation leaves me cold. And I'm fairly sure I'm not alone there. If have cold feet, I won't buy. So in the end, I've generally bought the most stuff from designers who've given some explanations for their biggest changes because it's a lot easier to follow the hows and whys of a major topic or change when the designer clues me in to the reasoning they used. They may not owe me an explanation. They may not get my money either. Even if there isn't a reason given now for the change to the entire structure, If I get one later, that'd be great. I'm just in my initial shock phase, and for a while probably won't see the reasons for it unless someone can articulate them to me. Obviously, a lot like the changes. I'm never quite sure how accurate these polls are, but if they're true, I gather most don't mind. So at least they don't appear to be too unpopular. I'll give the designers that. And so far, their mechanics notions appear to be in line with what I like. So, on balance, I've liked what I saw. And there's bits I think are great. And I'll give props to the WotC guys. They've generally been fairly open and forthcoming about things, considering. Mike: actually, I don't mind the erinyes in general being freed up from being a sex fiend (pun unintended) if it means I get a new one that's more "spirit of vengeance"-like. But I do want an erinyes, because I think the mythological monster is too cool to give up. That's all. Can a guy not feel annoyed by the loss of a particular favorite monster? And likewise, the succubus has a long history outside of D&D. Sex monsters go way back in heroic literature... [/QUOTE]
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