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<blockquote data-quote="Simia Saturnalia" data-source="post: 3796440" data-attributes="member: 53692">Having wanted pretty much everything they've said about the planes, from 'pockets' in an Astral Sea (even if you can't sail it, it sounds like what fantasy types might call it) to separated demons and devils (hell, even the Tharizdun thing works for me!), and in light of the increased local levels of Nerd Rage, I have only this to say...*adjusts custom user title*And I'm gonna put something out here: I admit I've only read about the first 12 pages of the Fiendish Codex for the Abyss. But there doesn't seem to be anything in there that's invalidated by this. That whole &quot;Tharizdun threw the evil seed in the Tempest and now's it's the Abyss&quot; thing? That could easily be, on behalf of the gods, what we like to call &quot;a lie&quot;. Because &quot;Oh, the Abyss? Yeah, our fault, by-product of making the world&quot; doesn't sound as divine and confidence-inspiring as &quot;Oh, the Abyss? Yeah, Tharizdun made it because he's evil. Go find one of his followers and hit him in the face, k?&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simia Saturnalia, post: 3796440, member: 53692"] Having wanted pretty much everything they've said about the planes, from 'pockets' in an Astral Sea (even if you can't sail it, it sounds like what fantasy types might call it) to separated demons and devils (hell, even the Tharizdun thing works for me!), and in light of the increased local levels of Nerd Rage, I have only this to say...*adjusts custom user title* And I'm gonna put something out here: I admit I've only read about the first 12 pages of the Fiendish Codex for the Abyss. But there doesn't seem to be anything in there that's invalidated by this. That whole "Tharizdun threw the evil seed in the Tempest and now's it's the Abyss" thing? That could easily be, on behalf of the gods, what we like to call "a lie". Because "Oh, the Abyss? Yeah, our fault, by-product of making the world" doesn't sound as divine and confidence-inspiring as "Oh, the Abyss? Yeah, Tharizdun made it because he's evil. Go find one of his followers and hit him in the face, k?" [/QUOTE]

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