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<blockquote data-quote="Winterthorn" data-source="post: 3442541" data-attributes="member: 1702"><p>pfffffft! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> My gawd, I almost spit up all over my keyboard! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Seriously: given the name "Duskblade" and it's elven roots, I think this class should have been presented as a prestige class of 10 levels along time ago; its tight specificities beg a prestige treatment. Alas there are already oodles of prestige classes, and plenty combining some magical ability with melee warrior abilities, so making the Duskblade a prestige class probably risked being redundant. Maybe it can be tweaked into being one in someone's campaign? It's the creative thing I might do in mine if there was player interest for that.</p><p></p><p>I also like the concept of an intelligent warrior who has also mastered some wizardly magic to support his combat effectiveness (in lieu of feats in the case of 3E). I am surprised the Duskblade has not appeared already in some elven oriented material given the popularity of the elf fighter-mage of earlier editions. But 3E studiously steered clear of racial prerequisites for full sized classes; maybe WotC should have said "these full-sized classes in the PH never have racial prerequisites, while those full-sized classes appearing in supplements might depending upon nature of said supplemental material..." (Of course, in the absence of official material, there are always house rules to fall back on **shrug**) </p><p></p><p>As DM the Duskblade looks mecanically respectable. While I still find the name kind of awkward, the class' elven history has potential. I definitely would expand its spell list with spells appropriate and plausible with respect to the class concept - if I played one I'd ask my DM if there were options on the spells. While greater choice can empower a players usage of a PC, it does not always follow that said expanded choice actually raises a PC's mecanical power in game/combat. In other words, greater spell flexibility may enhance PC playability in more situations (given the fiats of DM encounter choices), but it doesn't guarantee an increase in basic power; one just covers more bases. I think the greatest risk to expanding the Duskblade spell list: treading too much upon another class' turf - options should be made with care! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Gee, I hope made sense in all that there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winterthorn, post: 3442541, member: 1702"] pfffffft! :eek: :lol: My gawd, I almost spit up all over my keyboard! :) Seriously: given the name "Duskblade" and it's elven roots, I think this class should have been presented as a prestige class of 10 levels along time ago; its tight specificities beg a prestige treatment. Alas there are already oodles of prestige classes, and plenty combining some magical ability with melee warrior abilities, so making the Duskblade a prestige class probably risked being redundant. Maybe it can be tweaked into being one in someone's campaign? It's the creative thing I might do in mine if there was player interest for that. I also like the concept of an intelligent warrior who has also mastered some wizardly magic to support his combat effectiveness (in lieu of feats in the case of 3E). I am surprised the Duskblade has not appeared already in some elven oriented material given the popularity of the elf fighter-mage of earlier editions. But 3E studiously steered clear of racial prerequisites for full sized classes; maybe WotC should have said "these full-sized classes in the PH never have racial prerequisites, while those full-sized classes appearing in supplements might depending upon nature of said supplemental material..." (Of course, in the absence of official material, there are always house rules to fall back on **shrug**) As DM the Duskblade looks mecanically respectable. While I still find the name kind of awkward, the class' elven history has potential. I definitely would expand its spell list with spells appropriate and plausible with respect to the class concept - if I played one I'd ask my DM if there were options on the spells. While greater choice can empower a players usage of a PC, it does not always follow that said expanded choice actually raises a PC's mecanical power in game/combat. In other words, greater spell flexibility may enhance PC playability in more situations (given the fiats of DM encounter choices), but it doesn't guarantee an increase in basic power; one just covers more bases. I think the greatest risk to expanding the Duskblade spell list: treading too much upon another class' turf - options should be made with care! :) Gee, I hope made sense in all that there ;) :cool: [/QUOTE]
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