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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 648269" data-attributes="member: 3146">There's nothing wrong with Consecrated Harrier or Holy Liberator. Blessings of Scripture and Compulsion immunity are powerful but are both quite limited. (Especially Blessings of Scripture since the easiest way to qualify for the class is a Ranger/Rogue or Ranger/Rogue/Paladin combo and the ability effectively precludes the use of stealth to engage the target and eliminates the possibility of sneak attacks--furthermore the damage bonus only ever applies to a single individual at one time).  And the classes other abilities of both classes are quite limited.If you want to limit DotF power inflation, you should do something about the dramatically front-loaded Templar way before you touch either of these classes. (I'd recommend moving weapon specialization back a level or two and putting Mettle at third or fourth level. That would eliminate the Cleric x/Templar 1 combo which is pretty common.Hospitaller is fine for paladins but overpowered for clerics as written (especially fighter/clerics who can easily qualify for the class with just one level of fighter). So, a better solution might be to either reword the prerequisites or remove the one thing that makes it so attractive to clerics: full spell progression. If spell progression were reduced to 1/2 levels or 3/4 levels, then clerics wouldn't find the choice to take the class a no-brainer. (Alternately, Hospitaller levels could stack with Paladin levels for determining spellcasting abilities on a 1/1 basis but with cleric levels on a 1/2 basis). That's probably better than creating a new spell list which dramatically weakens the class for spellcasters--even part time spellcasters like Paladins.</blockquote>

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