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<blockquote data-quote="michaeljpastor" data-source="post: 8560483" data-attributes="member: 81243">Sorry if this has been addressed already elsewhere in the thread. I am a qualified Myers Briggs trainer and there is some interesting research and writings about Myers Briggs and politics in that there is significant overlap,&nbsp; I've done presentations to our professionals group about politics and type during presidential elections. It's very participatory and a lot of fun actually, even when the political climate is quite heated.It is too complex to go into on a forum post especially if I try to point out the correlations to alignment. Perhaps I will do a blog post some point and post the link here instead.&nbsp; I know that there is a lot of criticism about Myers-Briggs but I usually see significant misunderstanding of the theory in most of these criticisms. I am not interested in debating the validity of the mbti as I do have my own criticisms of it.&nbsp; But it's ability to describe differences in a coherent and systematic way is worth examining, especially because the debate about alignment is the same thing really. There are also a few variant models of Jung's psychology and sometimes they work better.&nbsp; Both systems, alignment and psychological type, are models; and all models are inherently merely the map and not the terrain; and therefore inherently flawed. Examining a parallel model description can be nothing if insightful into the one you really talking about.&nbsp; I believe it's valuable to look at both systems as philosophies as opposed to actual moralities or psychologies and it makes the conversation much more civil because no one's trying to be &quot;right.&quot;. It helps to approach it if one looks at them as descriptive as opposed to prescriptive.&nbsp; And now I really must sit down and start writing this blog post because it's really filling up my brain right now LOL</blockquote>

[QUOTE="michaeljpastor, post: 8560483, member: 81243"] Sorry if this has been addressed already elsewhere in the thread. I am a qualified Myers Briggs trainer and there is some interesting research and writings about Myers Briggs and politics in that there is significant overlap, I've done presentations to our professionals group about politics and type during presidential elections. It's very participatory and a lot of fun actually, even when the political climate is quite heated. It is too complex to go into on a forum post especially if I try to point out the correlations to alignment. Perhaps I will do a blog post some point and post the link here instead. I know that there is a lot of criticism about Myers-Briggs but I usually see significant misunderstanding of the theory in most of these criticisms. I am not interested in debating the validity of the mbti as I do have my own criticisms of it. But it's ability to describe differences in a coherent and systematic way is worth examining, especially because the debate about alignment is the same thing really. There are also a few variant models of Jung's psychology and sometimes they work better. Both systems, alignment and psychological type, are models; and all models are inherently merely the map and not the terrain; and therefore inherently flawed. Examining a parallel model description can be nothing if insightful into the one you really talking about. I believe it's valuable to look at both systems as philosophies as opposed to actual moralities or psychologies and it makes the conversation much more civil because no one's trying to be "right.". It helps to approach it if one looks at them as descriptive as opposed to prescriptive. And now I really must sit down and start writing this blog post because it's really filling up my brain right now LOL [/QUOTE]

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