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What do you think should be the primary source of inspiration for 4ed flavor?
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<blockquote data-quote="Daztur" data-source="post: 3798933" data-attributes="member: 55680"><p>Let me give an example of what I meant by the 4ed cosmology being mythologicaly-based:</p><p></p><p>Compare Shadowfeld with:</p><p></p><p>Gilgamesh, Tablet 7</p><p></p><p>The house where the dead dwell in total darkness,</p><p>Where they drink dirt and eat stone,</p><p>Where they wear feathers like birds,</p><p>Where no light ever invades their everlasting darkness,</p><p>Where the door and the lock of Hell is coated with thick dust.</p><p>When I entered the House of Dust,</p><p>On every side the crowns of kings were heaped,</p><p>On every side the voices of the kings who wore those crowns,</p><p>Who now only served food to the gods Anu and Enlil,</p><p>Candy, meat, and water poured from skins.</p><p></p><p>Odyssey, Book 11</p><p></p><p>"Then out of Erebus came swarming up </p><p>shades of the dead—brides, young unmarried men,</p><p>old ones worn out with toil, young tender girls,</p><p>with hearts still new to sorrow, and many men</p><p>wounded by bronze spears, who'd died in war, </p><p>still in their blood-stained armour. Crowds of them</p><p>came thronging in from all sides of the pit,</p><p>with amazing cries. Pale fear took hold of me. </p><p>...</p><p>Why leave the sunlight,</p><p>come to this joyless place, and see the dead?</p><p>...</p><p>How can you dare to come</p><p>down into Hades' home, the dwelling place</p><p>for the mindless dead, shades of worn-out men?'</p><p></p><p>Same basic ideas and then there's Hel (Norse), Sheol (Hebrew), Tuonela (Finnish) and Yomi (Japanese) that have the same basic idea. The Feywild and the Elemental Maelstorm also have VERY strong parallels with a series of myths that pop up all over the world.</p><p></p><p>Can you say the same of the Negative Energy Plane? No. The elemental/para-elemental/quasi-elemental? Not really, maybe Muspelheim but even that fits better as part of the 4ed Elemental Maelstorm. The Great Wheel? Nothing mythological fits with that that I can think of? Etherial? Again, I'm drawing a blank.</p><p></p><p>So it seems that what 4ed is doing is drawing on common mythological themes without tying itself tightly to any one set of myths.</p><p></p><p>I LOVE THIS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Daztur, post: 3798933, member: 55680"] Let me give an example of what I meant by the 4ed cosmology being mythologicaly-based: Compare Shadowfeld with: Gilgamesh, Tablet 7 The house where the dead dwell in total darkness, Where they drink dirt and eat stone, Where they wear feathers like birds, Where no light ever invades their everlasting darkness, Where the door and the lock of Hell is coated with thick dust. When I entered the House of Dust, On every side the crowns of kings were heaped, On every side the voices of the kings who wore those crowns, Who now only served food to the gods Anu and Enlil, Candy, meat, and water poured from skins. Odyssey, Book 11 "Then out of Erebus came swarming up shades of the dead—brides, young unmarried men, old ones worn out with toil, young tender girls, with hearts still new to sorrow, and many men wounded by bronze spears, who'd died in war, still in their blood-stained armour. Crowds of them came thronging in from all sides of the pit, with amazing cries. Pale fear took hold of me. ... Why leave the sunlight, come to this joyless place, and see the dead? ... How can you dare to come down into Hades' home, the dwelling place for the mindless dead, shades of worn-out men?' Same basic ideas and then there's Hel (Norse), Sheol (Hebrew), Tuonela (Finnish) and Yomi (Japanese) that have the same basic idea. The Feywild and the Elemental Maelstorm also have VERY strong parallels with a series of myths that pop up all over the world. Can you say the same of the Negative Energy Plane? No. The elemental/para-elemental/quasi-elemental? Not really, maybe Muspelheim but even that fits better as part of the 4ed Elemental Maelstorm. The Great Wheel? Nothing mythological fits with that that I can think of? Etherial? Again, I'm drawing a blank. So it seems that what 4ed is doing is drawing on common mythological themes without tying itself tightly to any one set of myths. I LOVE THIS. [/QUOTE]
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