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Message: <blockquote data-quote="THEMNGMNT" data-source="post: 8411538" data-attributes="member: 6809274">I'm in the camp that sees the core rules not changing, but the old classes and subclasses being revised to smooth out their rough edges. There's wide agreement in the community on which classes and subclasses need a tune up. I expect all sorcerer subclasses to get an additional spell list. I would also like it if they got some other class features that made them feel more distinct and differentiated.The warlock needs a power bump. It's an awesomely thematic and flexible class, but feels undertuned at the table. Fixing the short rest mechanics, giving them an extra spell in Tier 2, and beefing up the invocations would probably do it.The paladin needs a nerf, specifically with divine smite and the saving throw aura.  Even after Tasha's I think the ranger needs an overhaul. They key problem the ranger still has is that it lacks a defining class feature. There's no ranger equivalent to smite, rage, backstab, metamagic, etc. It desperately needs that. I'm not optimistic that it will ever get it. And I don't feel that hunter's mark is interesting enough to qualify.I'd still love to see to see a swordmage.I honestly believe the warlord could be a fighter subclass--a mechanic that lets it hand out Second Wind and Action Surge to other characters would get it most of the way there.I suspect that after the new core books are published Xanathar's and Tasha's will feel very outdated. I think that's why they're being bundled and discounted at the same time this announcement is being made--because they're only relevant for another 24 months. If the changes above are roughly what WotC delivers, then many of the original 5E subclasses will not be strictly compatible. Like if every sorcerer subclass gets a spell list, the shadow sorcerer from Xanathar's is gonna say, "What about me?"</blockquote>

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