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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 613047" data-attributes="member: 18">Jonas889 - Did you ever see Dark*Matter for Alternity? It's more or less exactly what you're talking about, and I think you'd have liked it quite a lot. It would be great to see it make a return for d20 Modern. I can certainly sympathise with your dislike of the Bugbears Bouncers, Hobgolin Pimps, et al, of the default d20 Modern. Frankly, I think it was laziness and perhaps a desire to convince D&amp;D players to buy the book that made them make the book in that way.Joshua - You're right, I'm making the situation far more black and white than it really is, I've been annoyed by people saying exactly the same thing, and I think you've got it right when you suggest confronting certain things can also be a big part of the experience. However, as you point outMistah - No, indeed, nothing that didn't happen, perhaps, though I doubt there were *quite* as many soldiers *quite* so young, frankly, even in the last days of Nazi Germany. It's not the specific incidents, it's the frequency, I think, and the fact that we are *not* looking at it from 60 years away, and we *cannot* easily pick out &quot;Good&quot; and &quot;Evil&quot; as we can with &quot;Allies vs Axis&quot;.I still doubt anyone would buy an African wars book, certainly of *modern* African wars, any more than they'd buy a genuinely realistic depiction of European wars 1400-1500, or whatever (it would be equally, if not more, full of horror).Henry - Hey there, haven't been around for a while. I came to ask a question on another forum, looked at this whilst I was here, and it seemed interesting, so I joined in. Nice to know there are plenty of &quot;Oldbies&quot; still around! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />You're dead right to point on the fact that you need to be very honest and non-judgemental to cover real-world topics well, and for all GURPS' frequent out-of-date-ness, I think this is one thing they generally achieve.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 613047, member: 18"] Jonas889 - Did you ever see Dark*Matter for Alternity? It's more or less exactly what you're talking about, and I think you'd have liked it quite a lot. It would be great to see it make a return for d20 Modern. I can certainly sympathise with your dislike of the Bugbears Bouncers, Hobgolin Pimps, et al, of the default d20 Modern. Frankly, I think it was laziness and perhaps a desire to convince D&D players to buy the book that made them make the book in that way. Joshua - You're right, I'm making the situation far more black and white than it really is, I've been annoyed by people saying exactly the same thing, and I think you've got it right when you suggest confronting certain things can also be a big part of the experience. However, as you point out Mistah - No, indeed, nothing that didn't happen, perhaps, though I doubt there were *quite* as many soldiers *quite* so young, frankly, even in the last days of Nazi Germany. It's not the specific incidents, it's the frequency, I think, and the fact that we are *not* looking at it from 60 years away, and we *cannot* easily pick out "Good" and "Evil" as we can with "Allies vs Axis". I still doubt anyone would buy an African wars book, certainly of *modern* African wars, any more than they'd buy a genuinely realistic depiction of European wars 1400-1500, or whatever (it would be equally, if not more, full of horror). Henry - Hey there, haven't been around for a while. I came to ask a question on another forum, looked at this whilst I was here, and it seemed interesting, so I joined in. Nice to know there are plenty of "Oldbies" still around! ;) You're dead right to point on the fact that you need to be very honest and non-judgemental to cover real-world topics well, and for all GURPS' frequent out-of-date-ness, I think this is one thing they generally achieve. [/QUOTE]

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