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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4526939" data-attributes="member: 40961"><p>4e is basically what I want.</p><p> </p><p>Here are nit picks:</p><p> </p><p>1. I want better support for big tent D&D. For example, I want the Ki power source to be openly and enthusiasticaly anime. Those who don't like it can choose not to play Ki characters. Those who cannot handle this, and insist that D&D shouldn't even have anime-based classes for those who want them, can feel free to be first against the wall when the revolution comes.</p><p> </p><p>I'm cool with it if the anime tropes are D&D-ized a bit, much like everything that ends up in D&D. But they should be available.</p><p> </p><p>2. Murder chromatic dragons. It shouldn't be hard, there are dragonbane swords everywhere left over from the last edition. Replace chromatics with colorful dragons. Some of these dragons may, by total coincidence, seem very much like present day chromatic dragons. That's ok. But the current system in which color wheels and useless symmetry drive design decisions is NOT COOL. If nothing else, it leads to boring dragon design and funny-lookin' dragons. Because if the artists can't make the dragons look different by varying their coloration (different solid colors is not varied coloration) they vary the dragons by adding horns that don't make sense.</p><p> </p><p>Can anyone deny that the Green Dragon would look better and fit its theme better if it, just to throw out a possible example, lost all the weird horns, gained a slick, slimy skin, and markings like a poison dart frog? Totally thematic, unique, and striking.</p><p> </p><p>3. Once and for all eradicate hand-jiving. Managing two held item slots when you have three items you want to use simply shouldn't be a meaningful part of the game. This is related to one of the problems with multiclassing- you want to wield a sword, a shield, and a wand, but... youv'e got three hands. You can get around this with creative use of quick draw and your minor actions, but seriously... it is aesthetically displeasing to have this be a problem. Its as if D&D tossed in Diablo's backpack inventory system, and you had to spend half your session rearranging your gear because the weird shape of your newly found Executioner's Axe totally throws off your inventory layout. Maybe not the same in terms of gameplay effect, but the same in terms of how much it bugs me.</p><p> </p><p>So you see from the above list, most of my demands are pretty idiosyncratic. Overall I'm pretty happy with 4e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4526939, member: 40961"] 4e is basically what I want. Here are nit picks: 1. I want better support for big tent D&D. For example, I want the Ki power source to be openly and enthusiasticaly anime. Those who don't like it can choose not to play Ki characters. Those who cannot handle this, and insist that D&D shouldn't even have anime-based classes for those who want them, can feel free to be first against the wall when the revolution comes. I'm cool with it if the anime tropes are D&D-ized a bit, much like everything that ends up in D&D. But they should be available. 2. Murder chromatic dragons. It shouldn't be hard, there are dragonbane swords everywhere left over from the last edition. Replace chromatics with colorful dragons. Some of these dragons may, by total coincidence, seem very much like present day chromatic dragons. That's ok. But the current system in which color wheels and useless symmetry drive design decisions is NOT COOL. If nothing else, it leads to boring dragon design and funny-lookin' dragons. Because if the artists can't make the dragons look different by varying their coloration (different solid colors is not varied coloration) they vary the dragons by adding horns that don't make sense. Can anyone deny that the Green Dragon would look better and fit its theme better if it, just to throw out a possible example, lost all the weird horns, gained a slick, slimy skin, and markings like a poison dart frog? Totally thematic, unique, and striking. 3. Once and for all eradicate hand-jiving. Managing two held item slots when you have three items you want to use simply shouldn't be a meaningful part of the game. This is related to one of the problems with multiclassing- you want to wield a sword, a shield, and a wand, but... youv'e got three hands. You can get around this with creative use of quick draw and your minor actions, but seriously... it is aesthetically displeasing to have this be a problem. Its as if D&D tossed in Diablo's backpack inventory system, and you had to spend half your session rearranging your gear because the weird shape of your newly found Executioner's Axe totally throws off your inventory layout. Maybe not the same in terms of gameplay effect, but the same in terms of how much it bugs me. So you see from the above list, most of my demands are pretty idiosyncratic. Overall I'm pretty happy with 4e. [/QUOTE]
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