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<blockquote data-quote="Keldryn" data-source="post: 5912083" data-attributes="member: 11999">I did specify &quot;relatively straightforward monsters&quot; in 3e, and I agree that stat blocks for complex monsters can get totally out of control in 3e.&nbsp; I'd have trouble managing a complex monster in 3e unless it was more or less on its own.&nbsp; I've got a good head for keeping track of complex plots and character motivations, but I'm lousy with monster stats once they pass a certain level of complexity.&nbsp; 4e does a lot to bring down the complexity on that end of the scale.&nbsp; Unfortunately, 4e also has a tendency to raise the complexity on the low end of the scale, and that's one of my biggest gripes about the system.&nbsp; This applies to both monsters and player characters.I liked it when most of the text on a page in an adventure was describing the environments that the players were exploring, with all of the monster stats that the DM needed to know to cover 90% of situations summarized on a couple of lines.I'm sure it's not a problem for all DMs, but when monster stat blocks get longer and more complex, I inevitably get more combat-focused and start to have trouble thinking &quot;outside the encounter.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Keldryn, post: 5912083, member: 11999"] I did specify "relatively straightforward monsters" in 3e, and I agree that stat blocks for complex monsters can get totally out of control in 3e. I'd have trouble managing a complex monster in 3e unless it was more or less on its own. I've got a good head for keeping track of complex plots and character motivations, but I'm lousy with monster stats once they pass a certain level of complexity. 4e does a lot to bring down the complexity on that end of the scale. Unfortunately, 4e also has a tendency to raise the complexity on the low end of the scale, and that's one of my biggest gripes about the system. This applies to both monsters and player characters. I liked it when most of the text on a page in an adventure was describing the environments that the players were exploring, with all of the monster stats that the DM needed to know to cover 90% of situations summarized on a couple of lines. I'm sure it's not a problem for all DMs, but when monster stat blocks get longer and more complex, I inevitably get more combat-focused and start to have trouble thinking "outside the encounter." [/QUOTE]

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