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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 393481" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi there! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />If we use logic as a base then a gargantuan dragon (akin to the male from Reign of Fire) should not be injured by standard arrows or swords. In fact I estimate its armour would even be resistant to 25mm cannon, it would probably take a number of 50mm shots or a point blank 100mm tank shell to drop.Lets assume for a moment that hit points are the square root of the mass (in lbs).eg. 30lb small halfling = 5hp200lb medium size human = 14hp1600lb large giant = 40hp12,800lb huge titan (or large iron golem) = 113hp204,800lb gargantuan dragon = 452hpWe know an M16 can kill a human on a critical hit; likewise we know a kevlar vest will probably stop a 5.56mm round.So its reasonable to assume a 5.56mm round will deal about 2d8 damage and a kevlar vest will stop about 14 points.If we scale all those up:Missile Weapons.5.56mm = 2d812.7mm sniper rifle = 4d1025mm cannon = 11d1050mm cannon = 32d10100mm tank shell = 90d10 200mm destroyer shell = 256d10400mm battleship shell = 724d10Heavy Armour.Medium Body Armour = DR 14/-Large Body Armour = DR 40/-Huge Body Armour = DR 110/-Gargantuan Body Armour = DR320/-Gargantuan Dragon* = DR452/-*If we assume the dragons scales are as effective as Kevlar. Though a dragons scaly hide is probably (pound for pound) akin to medium armour. So Gargantuan Dragon = DR226/-Medium Armour could be considered half as effective.Light Armour could be considered one quarter as effective.This revision necessitates you apply proper damage and strength modifiers to creatures.If a medium size claw attack deals 1d6 then a gargantuan dragons claw will deal about 32d6.Likewise if the typical human strength is 9-10 then the typical (gargantuan) dragons strength will be about 300 (+145 damage*).*Only damage, you do not gain a bonus to attack.Okay so how does a human (in a fantasy setting) hurt a gargantuan dragon with 452hp and Damage Reduction 226/-...- A giant ballista (as in a certain Ray Harryhausen movie: the Seventh Voyage of Sinbad). If a medium X-bow (3ft.) deals 1d10 and reduces DR to one quarter (DR 56/-). Then a 24ft. version would deal about 22d10 a 48ft. version about 63d10 (like the one they use in the movie).- An explosion (as in both Dragonslayer and Reign of Fire): the dragon in dragonslayer was probably on huge in terms of size, though she took the explosion on the outside and the gargantuan dragon (in Reign of Fire) swallowed his.Huge Dragon (from Dragonslayer) 160hp, DR 80/-Gargantuan Dragon (from Reign of Fire) 452hp, DR 226/-Exterior explosion 2 Kg of TNT = 25d10 with no Reflex save for half since it was carrying the exploding wizard; enough to cause the dragon serious damage, though it probably didn't die until it hit the ground.Interior explosion 250g of TNT = 8d10 (though dragon took 70d10 with no Damage Reduction and no Reflex save for half due to the grenade exploding inside it.</blockquote>

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