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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8665223" data-attributes="member: 83242">Thank you for the detailed reply. I don't disagree with your comments, but I also don't think it is that big of a deal. Like I said I preferred the 4e graphic design (and I didn't think it was video-gamey, but I don't play video games, so...) which had a lot of what you discuss - but it didn't sell.I will say I quickly looked at your Grim World and Witcher links you provided they look remarkably similar to 5e graphic design to my eye  (again on a quick pass).  Maybe I would need to have physical copies to really appreciate the difference.EDIT: I looked at the 3rd link now and I am not really seeing the improvement over WotC 5e products.  On  a very cursory review I like the WotC 5e graphic design as much or more the examples you provided. But l reserve the right to change that opinion if I get a chance to look at physical copies of the books.PS - I had no idea your were a non-native English speaker, It was all good IMO.</blockquote>