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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 8210605" data-attributes="member: 1465">I can see some value in enabling the possibility of a PC to craft a special item now and then. It could be magical or just masterwork, consumable or permanent, a replica of a DMG item or completely original.But if it turns to be a mere commodity then I am not interested. I don't want it to be just a way to make a profit, otherwise I'd just rather hide all the details and give the PC some weekly pocket money but who cares if they earn them by crafting or another way. I don't want it to be replicable in a way that once the PC knows how to make e.g. a Cloak of Elvenkind then it's Cloaks of Elvenkind for everyone.I want the process to be generally slow but not with fixed times, and I want it generally expensive but not with fixed prices. One month and 1000gp is meaningless to me, when I might be once running a fast-paced campaign and another time a lifelong saga, and either could be monty haul or grim and gritty.I think the only way is to make the "recipes" subjective to DM's discretion, by including priceless ingredients. Then the DM can indirectly infer a cost in terms of time and monetary expenses, and can also decide whether to handwave all the details or bring them to the forefront with a quest where how the time and money is spent becomes very visible.I hardly think that a "crafting rules system" can achieve this, but then it is also unnecessary. The best a book can do is provide guidelines and examples.</blockquote>

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